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  • ttubravesrock
    +7

    LOL. this article is a joke, right?

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    • joethebob
      +5

      That was my initial thought, although it appears the author has now penned a successive piece of equal wackiness.

      • ttubravesrock
        +5

        hmm.

        I live in a town that rarely sees anybody wearing formal/business attire. Jeans and a button down shirt are considered dressing up. women wear flip flops and yoga pants (or jeans) to work. men wear jeans and a t-shirt.

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  • jmcs (edited 9 years ago)
    +9

    Frozen workers make more errors and are less productive, according to Alan Hedge, professor of design and environmental analysis and director of Cornell’s Human Factors and Ergonomics Laboratory, who studied office temperatures about a decade ago.

    Compared to men drenched in sweat because they are expected to dress in a suit all year round? Even in an informal office acceptable men clothing (shorts slightly above the knees and a t-shirt) covers up a higher percentage of the body and is tighter than the acceptable clothing for women (a short sundress).

    • Teakay (edited 9 years ago)
      +6

      This suggestion irked me:

      And the men can just switch to more reasonable fashion choices for warmer offices. I see plenty of tan, summer suits around town. And even some linen or seersucker from the Southern delegations to D.C.

      I've never had to wear a full suit to work but I have tried some on and I can guarantee the switch from black/navy/grey suits to a tan suit would not be nearly enough to keep me cool. As a female I have a little bit more leeway and can wear thinner slacks and a light blazer over a blouse of some sort, and even that keeps me uncomfortably hot in a building of average temperature. If people get cold they can start adding layers, or social expectations can change and we can not require such a strict dress code for more formal offices. I propose everyone be allowed to wear slacks and a polo to work.

    • ttubravesrock
      +5

      wear a sundress to work then

      • jmcs
        +7

        I would settle for a Roman stile tunic in the summer. Do you think I can make it acceptable by saying that it's ethnic clothing because I'm southern European?

        • ttubravesrock
          +6

          those tunics are made of heavy linen so it might make you warmer.

          Seriously, you could wear a kilt and a t-shirt, but the kilt's i've seen are pretty heavy.

  • wolfpup
    +8

    Unless men are allowed to come to work in a nice pair of shorts and a short-sleeved shirt, then how can they be blamed for feeling warmer than women in sundresses? Men in the professional world are encouraged to wear pants, collared shirts, and oftentimes suits and ties. With these expectations, it is no wonder that they require a cooler environment to avoid overheating. As others have already written, someone can generally put on more layers if they feel too cold, but there is a limit to how many layers someone can take off if they feel too warm.

  • PushPull (edited 9 years ago)
    +7

    I'm really tempted to call BS on this. I have a difficult time wrapping my head around this being a gender issue rather than an individual physiology issue. Perhaps females are more prone to being cold, but I have seen enough of the opposite to question if that's the reality of the situation. Now, I don't work in an office environment, but I do work where we don't have control over the facilities' temperature. Usually, if one person is miserable, most are miserable regardless of gender. Side note, my wife would LOVE to be frozen, I'm more a 'comfortable at 80°' type of guy.

    Funny story, I knew a guy who was the facilities manager of a bowling alley, and would CONSTANTLY get hounded to adjust the temperature. He solved the problem by mounting thermostats on the walls behind every fourth lane. When he got asked to adjust the temperature, he'd just point out the thermostats and let the bowlers have their way. Didn't bother telling them that they weren't hooked up. Nobody ever noticed.

    • ttubravesrock
      +4

      I moved to interior Alaska primarily for the winters.

  • ToixStory
    +6

    It's...hard to tell if this article is satire or not. Being in Texas, I don't think I've been in any building in the summer that could be described as cold and more often hear complaints from men in suits who sweat like a dog in them (necessitating lots of hydration and undershirts to stay cool) than women from how cold it is. I guess things may be different in Washington, though the few places I've worked had a thermostat that wasn't allowed to go above or below a pretty small temperature range, so it rarely mattered who controlled it.

  • ISO
    +5

    Even if this is a gendered issue, why can't the men wear shorts? I've never seen a model for business attire that includes men wearing shorts or some pieces of clothing that were cooler. Instead of calling this a sexism issue and blaming men, why don't we change the fashion acceptability so that men can be in cooler clothing at the workplace. No need for anyone to suffer being too hot or too cold.

  • feloniousjones
    +3

    If men could wear shirts to work similar to women in a sundress, perhaps there would be less problems. American culture doesnt allow that however.

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