Go Mexico!!!

The practice of denying passports to people who were delivered in the Texas-Mexico region by midwives started under the Obama administration, The Post reported

This comment kind of changes the tone of the whole story. I mean it is still a very sad story, if you ask me but... it was not Trump who started it, so all those "racist regime" claims are actually exaggerations.

Have you got a reference for that?

Here but it is alleged by ICE but no-one can confirm it:

Amayo disputes that Arrona-Lara is wanted in Mexico. He said he searched for warrants in that country and nothing came up.

He was wanted in Mexico for murder. That didn't get a lot of play because it didn't fit the narrative.

Mexico will become a power right after they stop being a failed narco-state.

We tried to do this in New Mexico and found out we couldn't.

The Federal law allows a state to opt out of Daylight Savings Time, and stay on Standard Time if they want. But they can't stay on Daylight Saving Time all year, when the rest of the country is on Standard Time.

Even when Tillerson was there and approved, you're circumventing checks and balances by sending your kids all over the world. Congress, incompetent as they may be, is involved in approving those cabinet appointments for a reason. Once they're appointed, you can't just send your kids if you decide you don't like your cabinet.

Jared should not meet with Mexico. Ivanka should not meet with Korea. It's ridiculous.

Instead of a wall around Mexico, how about a wall around big pharma instead?

Isn't this the third extremely powerful earthquake in Mexico this month? We every now and then get tremors and it's crazy to feel, I can't imagine a fricking earth cracker like this thing.

I tried to do a Google search on other countries that pledged help. Only found Taiwan, Mexico and Venezuela. I really find that hard to believe. If it is true and they are withholding help because of Trump, then screw them. This is not about Trump.

Leaks aren't transparancy. Also Trump sounds like a 7 year old child over and over ("I'm the greatest") and begs Mexico to not reveal that he is lying to his supporters about the wall funding. Can you imagine Obama like this?

Ultimately, what all those articles referenced was a February 2016 Congressional Research Service (CRS) report on "U.S.-Mexican Security Cooperation" that mentioned plans for the U.S. to provide >"at least $75 million" in assistance to Mexico. However, that money would not be given to Mexico for the construction of a physical wall (which would largely be impractical given the geography of >the region), but rather it would be provided in the form of U.S. training and equipment assistance (e.g., nonintrusive inspection equipment, mobile kiosks, canine teams, immigration agents) to help >Mexico secure their southern border and better deal with shared U.S.-Mexico concerns over drug trafficking and immigration.

No mention of a fence or other physical barrier; are there any pics of this wall-like fence barrier structure?

You mean like this?

http://www.snopes.com/mexico-75-million-border-wall/

I don't think anyone believed Mexico was going to hand over cash or check, even the Don.

LOL

Yeah. It may not mean Mexico is paying for the wall but it seems like a pretty reasonable common sense change that wouldn't have a super drastic impact.

Here is the definition of bigotry.

How is it a solution to crime? What percentage of crimes are committed by people crossing the border? How much will this wall reduce our crime rate? What kind of crimes will it prevent? How many murders? How many rapes? How many armed robberies?

How does it reduce our debt? What are the total costs of this wall? How much is it going to cost to maintain this wall, year in, year out? How much is it going to cost to man this wall, year in, year out? Many places where Trump wants to put the wall are remote and not currently accessible; how much is it going to cost to build the infrastructure to get materials, equipment and personnel to the job sites? What about the parts of the border that are on the river? Where does the wall go, on the Mexican side, or the U.S. side? Are we just going to annex that land from Mexico? If the U.S. land is already owned, what's it going to cost to buy that land? What if the owner doesn't want to sell, will the government just take it?

How does it solve the employment problem, other than the short-term hiring of people to build the wall? What do those people do once the wall is built? How long is it going to take them to build the wall? What do we do in the meantime while the wall is being built?

How many illegal immigrants enter the country crossing the southern border? How many come in via other means, or crossing some other border? How much do we expect this wall to reduce illegal immigration?

Trump seldom comes out and says a wall will stop terrorists, but it's heavily implied. After the New Year's attack in Turkey, he did say the following: "We're going to have strong borders so that when people come into the country, they're going to come into the country legally – Which is the way we want to have it. We will build a wall. You know that. We will build a wall. And speaking of walls, so in Turkey tonight – I don't know, has anybody heard? Big disaster took place in Turkey tonight. Many, many, many people killed. A whole big deal going on over there. It's a horror show." So, how many terrorist attacks to we expect the wall will prevent? How does the wall stop or deter terrorists or prevent terrorist attacks?

A lot of Trump supporters in particular now believe this "alternative fact" when what they were really shown was a different Apartheid wall, which served as the inspiration.

There is no wall on the Mexico/Guatemala border.

I don't get why Trump insists Mexico pays for a wall they don't want. If Trump wants it, he should pay for it. Stop the bullying, the rest of the world is watching.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, those pipelines are both nearly complete and never meant many jobs in the first place. Once they're complete, mismanaging them takes hardly any employees.

Even Keystone XL only means forty-something permanent jobs, at the cost of gouging out a wound right through this country from the bitumen fields of Alberta through to the COREXIT-soaked Gulf of Mexico, to make way for a fuel so sulfurous not one drop of it would ever be used in this hemisphere. Jobs? Profits more like. Money in this president's pocket. Choking, noxious, TransCanada profits.

Union voters? You think there are union voters in this country? For that matter, outside of government employees, are you sure there are even unions to be reckoned with in this country? What century are you from?

One could claim Mexico has already made a down payment,

via transfer of jobs.

My guess is, if you're not Latin American, there are some mysterious things in this film (such as the reference to El Chapulin Colorado), but it is really funny. In a dark sort of way. If you don't know it, "mamón" is the Spanish word for "cocksucker" in many countries, including Mexico.

Damn. When Mexico is a better place to live than your current country, uh, just damn. I had a tile setter do some work recently, he is from Honduras. We talked for quite a while about this topic. What a shithole.

Oh yeah. Seven hundred jobs still going to Mexico and a piñata full of tax breaks and incentives for any company smart enough to threaten moving. Trump's business savvy at work all right.

Jeez. It'd be a shame if Carrier had to threaten moving the rest of those jobs again next year, wouldn't it?

They only had a profit of six-some-odd billion dollars last year. They can't go on losing money like that forever.

I mean, what? Like there's some reason the air conditioning business is going to see nothing but increased demand for the foreseeable future or something? Is there? Can you think of one?

Edit: I wonder if their seven-plus billion dollars in Pentagon contracts per year could've given anyone influence here. Huh.