Did anyone else try snapzu for this reason?
To be honest here, I have no stake in anything related to the fights at reddit between moderators, fph, or any other group. Reddit had just gotten stale for me.
After having an account there for 6 years, I felt I had seen pretty much everything they had to offer. Other than a few niche subreddits, there hasn't been in depth discussion there for years, its mostly just recycled memes, pictures, gifs, etc. The discussion that does take place is very shallow and one sided completely (and not in a positive way, mostly just parroting things that have been already said).
For me, leaving reddit wasn't about the drama. The drama was just an excuse to try something new, and so far I'm loving it!
8 years ago by wolfeater
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This is definitely similar to how I feel. When I first joined reddit back in 09 it felt a lot more like a community. I'll still continue to contribute to the few communities i care about on there (r/gamemusic mainly) but the vast majority of the site just feels stale and cold now.
I didn't see it in your tribes list, so I'll recommend /t/videogamemusic. Partly because it's picking up steam, and partly because I just made a contribution there so I guess this is a shameless self plug!
Not cool that someone downvoted you. I will check out that tribe for sure!
Haha, thanks! Just thought I'd share the tribe with you, as you said you'll contribute to r/gamemusic, so why not /t/videogamemusic as well? Let's help grow Snapzu into the place we want it to be!
That's a cool tribe! I joined up and posted one of my favourite video game tracks.
Just saw it! Bastion is an excellent choice of soundtrack.
"Picking up steam" is the only thing that Snapzu lacks, for me. What I mean is, the few subs I participate in on Reddit are the reasons I'm still there. They just aren't here yet, so I can't fully enjoy Snapzu. However, the feel and communal feeling of this site does make me feel like I belong to something. Since the communities I usually participate in aren't all here, yet, I've found some new places to hang!
I feel its because Snapzu is still in the construction phase, as new users and refugees are starting to build up a community. The best thing about it though is that you have an opportunity to become a part of that. Can't find your favorite type of tribe? make your own! Is a community sparse on content? provide it! Your efforts will be appreciated as you are contributing to make Snapzu a better, more lively place.
We also have to keep in mind that Snapzu is still invite-only at the moment. There simply won't be much community-building done without the population boom that will come once the invite system is replaced with a public registration one, no matter how many sites like Reddit experience a mass exodus.
I joined in 06. Before subreddits. Back then the communitu feeling was amazing.
Now, it's gone. We don't have that same shared sense of belonging.
Do you still remember the old secret redditor passphrase? :)
Something about making bacon out of narwhals? :P
"The narwhals bacon at midnight." :)
Yep I remember.
I will never forget frozen shower soap.
I agree. A lot of the default subs cater to a single archetype - anything that falls even slightly outside of that realm gets downvoted to hell. It really depends on the community, there are some subreddits that have a healthy environment and promote valuable conversation. Because of those subs, I will not leave Reddit.
I loved Reddit I just never understood the users. Here on Snapzu I feel so much more welcome than when I first joined Reddit and I love that I am being a part of a community that is still shaping up, Plus I absolutely love the concept of XP it makes me feel much more friendly and an active poster.
It is harder being a sheep on a herd that already moves by routine, than a sheep joining a new herd still learning how to move.
I agree it feels like we are more of a community. Like we moved from the city to bumping into everyone not knowing who the heck they are to a up and coming town that is fixing to boom.
Hey! you look a lot like superman...
What are you talking about, look at his glasses! There's no way he could be Superman.
He looks like a pretty average reporter, in my opinion.
That's ridiculous! What's next Bruce Wayne is Batman? You're insane dude.
Interestingly, that's one of the parts I dislike the most about snapzu. It places arbitrary and annoying restrictions on accounts, like limiting the number of subscribed tribes, in order to implement some sort of obnoxious gamification.
Actually its not arbitrary at all. The XP and Reputation system at the very core have a number of very important uses and are tied into almost all subsystems which have been created to fill a number of specific functions. The leveling aspect is just one of the many protections we have against trolling, spamming, proper handling of server resources (ie. being subscribed to 10,000 tribes is heavy on the server) as well as being a major part in content management. We haven't explained it in full as we don't want the system to be gamed, but I can assure you there is nothing arbitrary about any of it, it was created with specific goal in mind and took a lot of time and effort. I do however understand why you may naturally feel this way, karma points are useless internet points after all.
You already get 50 tribes you can join at level 1 , Myself I find that more than enough. (Almost 3 years of Reddit and I am only joining 45 subs, mostly are defaults anyway)
I think the goal of Snapzu is the community and how they should be active and have a voice. Human resource is always an important resource and in the case of a social network human resource is the users.
Rekt
Pretty similar situation. I could care less about the fact that they had fired someone - I was more annoyed that the website took itself so seriously that they would shut down when the company fired someone. I really just want somewhere to hang out.
yeah my problem as well, it started affecting reddit as whole, not only the r/ama from where she was from (i think) but the other subs started to be affected, it ruined the experience for me.
Agreed! Was always a lurker on Reddit and quite leery of actually participating as there was just so much toxicity and negativity being thrown about. Snapzu is a whole new world - a friendlier and more inviting world, with a lot of interesting tidbits and smart conversations. I feel soooo much more welcome here than I ever, ever felt on Reddit... Snapzu is the safe and sane version of what Reddit could have been.
I agree with you. In the larger subs it's just constant deja vu. There are still smaller subs that I would enjoy but I think that creating/being a part of new small tribes here is more enjoyable.
If you stick with the smaller subreddits, you never really see all that recycled stuff. There are only a few main subreddits I look at. It is nice though to be here and see a new community growing.
Pretty much this. It's too bad that Snapzu has some of the same things I hated about reddit, though (cough downvotes cough). So I don't know how long I'll be staying here, either.
I agree. In depth discussion is rare. It's always someone trying to be a know-it-all or having to prove some point with a heated debate that spirals into flaming ; that or some pointless meme, pun thread, jokes, ect. Not that the latter are bad; an occasional joke or humorous comment is nice sometimes. But it seemed that on Reddit it was too much.
I actually saw on Reddit someone post a list of alternatives and when they mentioned Snapzu they said that the discussion here is dull because we're "less opinionated." I don't believe we're less opinionated, I just think they're not used to discussion where things aren't heated and one side getting downvoted. If that's the kind of drama they want in a community, they can stay there on Reddit as far as I'm concerned.
Good! Commenting on reddit became so exhausting. You have to be so precise with how you word your comments to avoid being attacked. You can't use terms like "a lot of people" because you'll be accused of generalising. And you have to be careful not to use wording that could be seen as, or turned into, a pun because people will jump all over it and you'll never get the conversation back on track.
This forced me to become a better and more articulate writer...constantly looking for how my words could be twisted (or simply misinterpreted). But, yes, I know what you mean. It also prevented me from making many spontaneous comments when I lacked the time to make the comment bullet-proof. There seemed to be little room for interactive communication.
I had been there 8,5 years, migrated from Digg a few years before everyone else. Two years ago I mostly removed all the standard subreddits and stuck to the small ones. I would literally not be part of the drama if I wanted to. Reddit's avoided change for a long time, and the site's looking more and more stale.
yeah, I signed up a while ago for that reason. I still mainly browse reddit anyway, just a different set of subreddits than I used to. Snapzu is pretty nice, but I haven't spent that much time on here yet. I browse it with a few more similar sites + reddit when I am bored
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The drama made it easier to find alternatives. I wouldn't say that I am leaving because of the drama, or that I'm leaving at all. I like Reddit still. I don't like how the user base has reacted to some of the things that have happened. The level of vitriol is just unpleasant to deal with.
I would say I felt somewhat similar. I never felt attached to Reddit as some do and I certainly didn't enjoy the ever present danger of being targeted by a 14 year old with a laptop and a grudge. My main contributions were to photo editing subs which were fairly safe- unless you were a poor unfortunate who innocently submitted a photo for editing and ended up with something NSFW of your deceased grandmother-I'm exaggerating a bit here, but you get the picture. I enjoyed the more moderated subs like history and science who had excellent contributors. I enjoy actual discussion,thoughtful respectful debate of ideas, wry observations/witticisms rather than parrotted responses.
I wasn't upset about FPH or Victoria however I didn't like how that was communicated and the responses/treatment of Reddit by Reddit Inc. For me its been obvious that the prority has been to clean-up and monetise Reddit at the expense of the community aspect of Reddit.
I didn't actually mind that the mods shut down a slew of subreddit, it was a very succinct and public display that there was a broader issue and that Reddit Inc relies on Redditors to provide content , they shouldn't be treated as a given that will always happen.
I learned about snapzu from the reddit nonsense, but I'm here for one big reason: link summaries. I always hated that reddit let you post a link with a title, but then if you had anything to say about it you had to dump it in the comments. I don't want to have to click on every link just to see what it's about.
I think a lot of people are trying Snapzu for this very reason.
The one thing that has always bothered me about Reddit is the karma system. Downvoting has always been used as a "disagree" button. There were many times where I did not comment on a discussion because I knew it would get downvoted.
Hopefully Snapzu can create an environment where people feel free and open to share their opinions and have healthy discussions. I'm placing my social media bets on the great team behind this website.
Reddit lost its mass appeal for me quite awhile ago it was too toxic.
I'd only visted r/winemaking and other related subs for nearly the last 2 years so I was completely unaware of any trouble in reddit propper.
Call me oblivious.
Ah well we were a sub community in the wine and brewing threads. We talked brewing that's about it no drama.
I came here because I was bored.
The people I usually traded experiment data with hadn't shown up for awhile and now I guess I know why.
hmpf I thought they'd merely gotten bored with the site as I had.
It's a bit sad because I wanted to thank them for all their help recreating a lost wine recipe hah we actually did it as a group effort and it came out just as I remembered. It took a year and a bit but it was worth the wait.
Well thanks for the info ... hey at least now I know what happened to my fellow winos
I feel the same way honestly. And although it does feel weird to leave it's nice to see somewhere new that has improved on the old system. For example I love the incentive to participate here it makes it so that you're still able to lurk, but at the same time makes you feel like by contributing to the community you get something back.
As weird as it might sound, coming from someone who lives in one of the most diverse cities in the world(Houston), I think that reddit had a bad case of too much diversity. So many different view points and opinions where conflicting at once that it creates this huge downvote circlejerk and it was really tiresome. Don't even get me started on people that downvote comments just because someone else downvoted it.
Reddit just doesn't work for me when the subreddit is large. Any discussion is lost between the easily-digestible comments and memes.
The smaller subs are hit or miss, and although some provide interesting opportunities or news, many are just shitposting.
The large subs like news and worldnews would have still been useful for me, but apparently they only allow discussion of certain issues. And, now I just can't trust the mods there, so I'm looking for new communities. Voat is exactly the same as reddit, and although I do also post there, I figured that I might as well try something new. It's been bothering me for a while that reddit's system just doesn't work.
Pretty much. As far as I'm concerned, Reddit Administration =/= Reddit community, and until one, the other, or both get so bad that they cause the site as a whole to self-destruct, it's still the place for me to go to watch pimples getting popped, animals being cute, people getting killed, etc. That said, the recent drama did get me to develop more of an interest in other, similar sites, and between the two more popular "Reddit alternatives" right now (Snapzu and Voat), I'm finding Snapzu to be preferable for its (so far) low-key, calm, mature atmosphere, where we can all converse in this manner without getting randomly/arbitrarily buried, shadowbanned, etc. Well, that and because Snapzu's servers don't seem to be perpetually on fire like Voat's. :P
Snapzu discussion seems much more reminiscent of the earlier incarnations of Reddit. I'm actually enjoying reading comments again because they resemble thoughtful conversation. I left Reddit because I felt the direction they were moving towards was going to focus on the monetization of the websites popularity but will be staying for the quality content and comments.
Agreed, which is why I wouldn't even bother giving Voat a chance. It's just Reddit with less people.
I've joined because of the conflict, but not the exact reasons. The conflict itself brought up Reddit Alternatives that seem pretty cool to me!
I am 100% with you. I also hated that there were so many attempts at viral marketing... I wasn't a HailCorporate nut or anything, but I'll be darned if nobody was using that place as a billboard!