• worthlessgalaxy
    +14

    So I think you left out some very important context on those quotes that lead to the outrage.

    When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.

    This leaves out that really, most of the immigrates coming over illegally probably aren't bad people. He implied that all Mexican's that come over are bad people. He also implies that Mexico is sending them over.

    His biggest failure was his wording and then his double down. Clamming that the Mexican government pressured Univision to drop it's contract. He might have had some fair points, but they got lost on delivery and he refused to acknowledge his mistake.

    • BretsFan4Ever
      +3

      I posted that quote as opposed to the former because it was a reiteration of his stance that he had stated shortly after and one that he still seemed to be receiving just as much flak for. I apologize if it came off as misleading in any way as that was not my intention. I was simply trying to post the view he held that seemed to be causing this uproar. I agree with you 100 percent that his delivery was atrocious and seems to be at the root of the problem here. Obviously there is a problem with crime among some of the immigrant population, aside from the crime of coming here illegally, but to paint the majority as thugs and rapists seems like a bit of a misstep. However, the issue I still hold with the backlash he's receiving is that while the initial comments may have come off as a bit harsh, he did further clarify his statement and I believe that is where the outrage should have ceased. His delivery was off, we've all had those moments. It's no reason to crucify someone. As I said before, I don't even like Trump. But this whole situation comes across as outrage for the sake outrage.

      • worthlessgalaxy
        +4

        Ok I seemed to have missed that reiteration. I saw a clip of him talking several days later (on fox I think?) where he stated something to the effect of "x% of women are raped crossing the boarder and the rapist have o be coming from somewhere". This is a very poor wording of his quote, so take it with a grain of salt, but he was again implying that a large percentage of the immigrates are criminals. I think this has been blown out of proportion but I really think he is also feeding it. It seems like he will clarify some and then backtrack back to the former statement. I almost think he is doing it on purpose, but I would have no idea what his goal would be. I don't think he is a viable candidate period. I don't think he understands politics, the media, or public relations.

        • BretsFan4Ever
          +4

          * I don't think he understands politics, the media, or public relations.*

          Absolutely, I think you hit the nail on the head. He strikes me as an out of touch old businessman who doesn't really have any business running the country. I haven't watched any video on the subject, have just been sticking to reading his quotes, so I missed the one you mentioned about the women being raped and what not. I would like to believe that he is wrong, and since I don't have any hard numbers on the issue in front of me, i'd have to give the immigrants the benefit of the doubt which is really what he should have done as well. Again though, i'm not even sure if that's really waht he meant at this point or if he just poorly worded it as his fumbling is causing it all just criss cross into this giant mess. I know how politically correct and sensitive everyone is in this day and age and I still believe this is a major contributing factor, however there's no denying that he is also at fault in this whole ordeal as anyone running for high office needs to be able to convey their messages in a clear and concise manner, and than stick by said messages when pushed on the issue.