Modern hip hop music. Now I am not talking about all modern hip hop music but come on guys, you know what I'm talking about. The songs that all talk about sex and money and drugs and nothing deeper than that. Modern hip hop has become one huge dick waving contest.
I don't know, pop in the past hasn't been classy anyways. Just look at Michael Jackson's Billy Jean. A song about how he isn't the father in a sexual relationship.
I think there's good and bad music in every genre from every year. We just feel our generation has more bad than good because we rarely continue to play previous generations' shitty music.
I agree on the whole, of course, but I think there are some exceptions. For instance, Sia is massive at the moment, and I would say she's charming and an excellent songwriter.
Uhhh, hip hop has been a party genre since it's conception. Ice Ice Baby, Baby Got Back, Jump, are all void of lyrical content. Sex and drugs? Listen to Gin & Juice, It Was A Good Day, Hits from the Bong, Bitches Ain't Shit. FFS, an album considered to be one of the greatest is literally a drug reference "The Chronic"
Sad to see this though. I listened to lots of hip-hop as a kid, it's downfall has been painful to watch. Now it's not so much about the music and more about the money it can make. Originally, you needed to make good music to make money. But many record companies realized that they could make much more money by producing something catchy and make various other companies pay millions of dollars to be allowed to use songs in ads or be played in their stores.
I actually had a massive issue trying to find hip hop I liked. I love words more than anything, and really liked the form when I was younger but in pre-internet days, is was tough to find the music that wasn't about fronting or money, etc.. Gangsta was really big back then, but didn't really talk to me. I had several Jurassic 5 albums growing up, which is really good, but often pretty light (though tight) lyrically.
Then, later I discovered Saul Williams and things changed. I went on to discover Sage Francis, Brother Ali, Doomtree (incl Dessa and Sims' solo stuff) and plenty of other poetic and engaging artists. It was a 'dig a little deeper' scenario for me, but at the time I didn't know where to start.
It's weird when I see hip hop fans talking about their favourite Kanye or Lil' Wayne song, I just can't access it. Even Jay Z does nothing for me. It's not me being 'hipstery' or anything, I just need the lyrics to move me a little.
It's not just the themes that are disappointing- I can chill out to Biggie rapping about how he shoots people 24/7- but the lyricism and technique in a lot of hiphop/pop is just awful.
I think hip hop became is suffering from too much contamination from other genres like rnb and a bit of pop, i don't the style has changed so much all over the years, but again we are talking about hip hop, but there are still some underground and less known hip hop made that has the vibe and feeling from the early days, the problem is radio stations don't play it anymore.
Yeah, I was hoping that OutKast would become the new ideal rather than Jay Z. Unfortunately crass consumerism is an easier sell than genre transcendence.
Modern hip hop music. Now I am not talking about all modern hip hop music but come on guys, you know what I'm talking about. The songs that all talk about sex and money and drugs and nothing deeper than that. Modern hip hop has become one huge dick waving contest.
Modern pop music as well, sadly.
I don't know, pop in the past hasn't been classy anyways. Just look at Michael Jackson's Billy Jean. A song about how he isn't the father in a sexual relationship.
maybe he isn't we will never know xD
But yeah we can't say pop was classy or something before, apart from a few genius, that would do great songs, it is and was mostly crap.
I think there's good and bad music in every genre from every year. We just feel our generation has more bad than good because we rarely continue to play previous generations' shitty music.
I agree on the whole, of course, but I think there are some exceptions. For instance, Sia is massive at the moment, and I would say she's charming and an excellent songwriter.
And I'd agree with that :)
This. 99% of today's hip-hop is complete horseshit compared to what it was in late 90s and early 2000s.
My favourite hip-hop song from the late 90s, La tribu de Dana by Manau.
Uhhh, hip hop has been a party genre since it's conception. Ice Ice Baby, Baby Got Back, Jump, are all void of lyrical content. Sex and drugs? Listen to Gin & Juice, It Was A Good Day, Hits from the Bong, Bitches Ain't Shit. FFS, an album considered to be one of the greatest is literally a drug reference "The Chronic"
Is there a /t/lewronggeneration yet?
Sad to see this though. I listened to lots of hip-hop as a kid, it's downfall has been painful to watch. Now it's not so much about the music and more about the money it can make. Originally, you needed to make good music to make money. But many record companies realized that they could make much more money by producing something catchy and make various other companies pay millions of dollars to be allowed to use songs in ads or be played in their stores.
I actually had a massive issue trying to find hip hop I liked. I love words more than anything, and really liked the form when I was younger but in pre-internet days, is was tough to find the music that wasn't about fronting or money, etc.. Gangsta was really big back then, but didn't really talk to me. I had several Jurassic 5 albums growing up, which is really good, but often pretty light (though tight) lyrically.
Then, later I discovered Saul Williams and things changed. I went on to discover Sage Francis, Brother Ali, Doomtree (incl Dessa and Sims' solo stuff) and plenty of other poetic and engaging artists. It was a 'dig a little deeper' scenario for me, but at the time I didn't know where to start.
It's weird when I see hip hop fans talking about their favourite Kanye or Lil' Wayne song, I just can't access it. Even Jay Z does nothing for me. It's not me being 'hipstery' or anything, I just need the lyrics to move me a little.
AYMIN LOVE WITH THE COCO :commit suicide:
You might like Kendrick Lamar. His lyrics are solid.
It's not just the themes that are disappointing- I can chill out to Biggie rapping about how he shoots people 24/7- but the lyricism and technique in a lot of hiphop/pop is just awful.
I think hip hop became is suffering from too much contamination from other genres like rnb and a bit of pop, i don't the style has changed so much all over the years, but again we are talking about hip hop, but there are still some underground and less known hip hop made that has the vibe and feeling from the early days, the problem is radio stations don't play it anymore.
It is really shocking how bad some rappers' flows are. Hope this works as a temporary pick-me-up. :)
Yeah, I was hoping that OutKast would become the new ideal rather than Jay Z. Unfortunately crass consumerism is an easier sell than genre transcendence.
Any reason to post Chris Rock standup...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWvi9dfB4jU
You just haven't heard the lyrical beauty of Fetty Wap's My Way. It's haunting melody will stay with you long after the song has ended.