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Published 7 years ago by FivesandSevens with 12 Comments

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  • NinjaKlaus
    +11

    So, Edward Snowden is a traitor for releasing classified information. General David Petraeus was charged for letting a woman he was keeping as a mistress read classified info, he plead down to a misdemeanor. Hillary Clinton kept all emails, including classified or sensitive ones, on a private server against Government rules, kept her own phone despite it wasn't approved for sensitive material and had that server broken into and gets off with it? WTF? Bullshit!

    • Gozzin
      +11

      One set of laws for them,one set for everyone else.

  • SMcIntyre
    +11

    I mean, seriously, is there anyone who honestly thought this was going to go any other way?

    • AdelleChattre
      +10

      Maybe the lesson is that it's okay to think you're so entitled that you're above the law if it turns out you actually are. A condition not limited to the Clintons by any means, but theirs is an especially glaring sense of entitlement. Bill's felonies at polling places this year alone just kept piling up.

      • SMcIntyre
        +6

        I gave up trying to figure out how the Clintons keep getting away with this stuff back in the '90s.

  • NotWearingPants
    +9

    So, not a criminal, just utterly incompetent. And she's the best the DNC could put forward.

  • FivesandSevens (edited 7 years ago)
    +8

    Like a lot of folks, I want Clinton to be indicted for this. But I also talked to some similarly-minded lawyer friends about it. They made it pretty clear that there was both precedent in jurisprudence, and room in the law for interpretation, which allowed a decision to indict to hinge on the "intent" of the person being investigated - as long as the classified info was not given to, or taken by, outsiders. Since nobody came forward with evidence that her incredibly insecure servers were hacked, and because of the chance that evidence of such a hacking could be deemed top secret pending an investigation into the hacker(s), I gave up hope of an indictment. I didn't ask them about the DoS rules she broke, but I'm hearing that those are mostly punishable internally - firing, demotions, etc. - and since she doesn't work there anymore she's out of their reach.

    Still, I'm not convinced she was ignorant of all of it (I think she thought that rules don't apply to her, a problem that will now continue), or that she wasn't hacked. And I think her defense, which boils down to "Sorry, I messed up. Computers are hard. Everybody used to do it.", is not the stuff of a good presidential candidate.

    Really, really damned frustrating.

    • AdelleChattre
      +7

      Don't worry. Republicans in Congress will begin their impeachment proceedings for this on her first day in office. That is, if she can somehow beat Donald Trump in a popularity contest, which at this point seems doubtful.

      • FivesandSevens
        +7

        Yeah. Lots to come on this, I'm sure, though I hope they don't try to impeach (unless Warren is VP - then I might be amused by it). I think even all the hordes of GOP Clinton investigators (Is this its own industry yet?), with all the evidence the FBI has or more, save a hacker in custody with all her emails on their hard drive, could not prove gross negligence on her part as the law requires.

        I think she'll beat Trump though. She's the most reliable representative of the desires of Beltway insiders, influential liberal and conservative hawks in the MI complex, and the .1%, the last of whom I believe will eventually see to it that Trump loses and his followers are assimilated into an astroturfed, more "religious" version of his campaign for the 2018 midterms.

  • leweb
    +7

    At this point you have to wonder what else the government could do to piss people off enough to do something. The amount of blatant, in-your-face, corruption and cronyism in the US government surpasses anything I could have possibly imagined.

  • pengw1ng
    +4

    Complete Jack's lack of surprise here

  • yahcela
    +2

    The criminal intent here should stem from her attempt to avoid any future FOIA requests. I must say, though, that I've given up hope that the ruling class will be held accountable for anything anymore.

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