Like a lot of folks, I want Clinton to be indicted for this. But I also talked to some similarly-minded lawyer friends about it. They made it pretty clear that there was both precedent in jurisprudence, and room in the law for interpretation, which allowed a decision to indict to hinge on the "intent" of the person being investigated - as long as the classified info was not given to, or taken by, outsiders. Since nobody came forward with evidence that her incredibly insecure servers were hacked, and because of the chance that evidence of such a hacking could be deemed top secret pending an investigation into the hacker(s), I gave up hope of an indictment. I didn't ask them about the DoS rules she broke, but I'm hearing that those are mostly punishable internally - firing, demotions, etc. - and since she doesn't work there anymore she's out of their reach.
Still, I'm not convinced she was ignorant of all of it (I think she thought that rules don't apply to her, a problem that will now continue), or that she wasn't hacked. And I think her defense, which boils down to "Sorry, I messed up. Computers are hard. Everybody used to do it.", is not the stuff of a good presidential candidate.
Don't worry. Republicans in Congress will begin their impeachment proceedings for this on her first day in office. That is, if she can somehow beat Donald Trump in a popularity contest, which at this point seems doubtful.
Yeah. Lots to come on this, I'm sure, though I hope they don't try to impeach (unless Warren is VP - then I might be amused by it). I think even all the hordes of GOP Clinton investigators (Is this its own industry yet?), with all the evidence the FBI has or more, save a hacker in custody with all her emails on their hard drive, could not prove gross negligence on her part as the law requires.
I think she'll beat Trump though. She's the most reliable representative of the desires of Beltway insiders, influential liberal and conservative hawks in the MI complex, and the .1%, the last of whom I believe will eventually see to it that Trump loses and his followers are assimilated into an astroturfed, more "religious" version of his campaign for the 2018 midterms.
Like a lot of folks, I want Clinton to be indicted for this. But I also talked to some similarly-minded lawyer friends about it. They made it pretty clear that there was both precedent in jurisprudence, and room in the law for interpretation, which allowed a decision to indict to hinge on the "intent" of the person being investigated - as long as the classified info was not given to, or taken by, outsiders. Since nobody came forward with evidence that her incredibly insecure servers were hacked, and because of the chance that evidence of such a hacking could be deemed top secret pending an investigation into the hacker(s), I gave up hope of an indictment. I didn't ask them about the DoS rules she broke, but I'm hearing that those are mostly punishable internally - firing, demotions, etc. - and since she doesn't work there anymore she's out of their reach.
Still, I'm not convinced she was ignorant of all of it (I think she thought that rules don't apply to her, a problem that will now continue), or that she wasn't hacked. And I think her defense, which boils down to "Sorry, I messed up. Computers are hard. Everybody used to do it.", is not the stuff of a good presidential candidate.
Really, really damned frustrating.
Don't worry. Republicans in Congress will begin their impeachment proceedings for this on her first day in office. That is, if she can somehow beat Donald Trump in a popularity contest, which at this point seems doubtful.
Yeah. Lots to come on this, I'm sure, though I hope they don't try to impeach (unless Warren is VP - then I might be amused by it). I think even all the hordes of GOP Clinton investigators (Is this its own industry yet?), with all the evidence the FBI has or more, save a hacker in custody with all her emails on their hard drive, could not prove gross negligence on her part as the law requires.
I think she'll beat Trump though. She's the most reliable representative of the desires of Beltway insiders, influential liberal and conservative hawks in the MI complex, and the .1%, the last of whom I believe will eventually see to it that Trump loses and his followers are assimilated into an astroturfed, more "religious" version of his campaign for the 2018 midterms.