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  • drunkenninja (edited 3 years ago)
    +5

    I categorically disagree that the posts in /t/cars are positive because "cars are generally not designed to be used as weapons". Posts in /t/cars are positive because that community is made up of car enthusiasts and the posts are about the things they are interested in.

    I feel this is an entirely subjective point of view. For instance, If there was a story about a self driving car gone haywire and killed 3 pedestrians it would be within the tribe's rules to post that news article. I don't see how a story involving a "car" shouldn't be posted.

    • beren
      +2

      I don't agree with your opinion as to why users post what they do in /t/cars, but I also don't try to delegitimize your opinion by labeling it subjective. The truth is both of our opinions about why the posts in /t/cars are made are speculation.

      Maybe you have a point about the self-driving car accident scenario. I will say this though: if I search for "elliot rodger" on snapzu and look at all the snaps from about a year ago, I will find they are posted to /t/guns , /t/crime, /t/news, etc. but I won't find any posted to /t/cars even though he used his car to run over several people after stabbing and shooting several other people.

      Yes, pretty much everything posted here could be construed as relevant to /t/guns, hell, anything could as long as the word "gun" appears in it, but the negativity around guns and gun owners in the articles posted here is not due to relevancy, accuracy, or an interest in growing the /t/guns community for people who want to discuss guns themselves instead of lunatics that cause devastation.

      I'm not trying to debate gun control or change anyone's mind about the subject. I am just trying to point out that some people don't have respect for a community they aren't really interested in contributing to. I'm also starting to get that "dreadful reddit" feeling reading these comments; I know some people don't agree with me, which is fine, but I do not feel like any effort is being made to understand my position, which is fine also, and at the same time disappointing.

      • drunkenninja (edited 3 years ago)
        +6

        I apologize if I came off that way, I didn't mean to offend, I was only suggesting that these "default" tribes ie. cars, food, medicine, animals, etc. are regarded to host misc stories / content that fit into the general nature of the subject matter they stand for which is subjective for anyone looking to submit content. And thus the reason why my suggestion was to create a new tribe that is named more appropriately for what the expected content should be.

        Maybe you have a point about the self-driving car accident scenario. I will say this though: if I search for "elliot rodger" on snapzu and look at all the snaps from about a year ago, I will find they are posted to /t/guns , /t/crime, /t/news, etc. but I won't find any posted to /t/cars even though he used his car to run over several people after stabbing and shooting several other people.

        As for the car argument, I feel it's because cars were originally invented as a mode of transportation and are considered to this day to be such devices, they can be used as deadly weapons and sometimes are but in general that is not why the car exists. Guns on the other hand were invented to kill things, its the sole reason for their invention even though they can be used for so much more, ie, target shooting, skeet shooting, celebratory purposes, home defence, and much more.

        Either way, I think the best possible course of action is to create a niche tribe that focuses on the positive side of guns, and create rules that reinforce this approach. BTW, I hunt, lots, and I own rifles and restricted firearms which I take to the range on a regular basis. I am not arguing for or against guns here.