Recognizing that this is futile, but at what point in his speech did he claim immediate results? Where did he say "the moment this comes into law health care will never become more expensive and premiums will drop immediately"?
This program is a start. It's already dropped national spending on health care and it's projected to save billions that wouldn't have been saved otherwise. It isn't perfect and it has places that can be improved. The fact that you're complaining because it isn't already perfect is just silly.
Republicans have now had six years with which to come up with a viable replacement for Obamacare. Not once have they ever produced a serious proposal, just specious claims that they'll do it eventually. Until they do I'll take incremental progress over none at all.
Futile is correct. He promised immediate relief. "Projections" have proved incorrect. .........."The fact that you're complaining because it isn't already perfect is just silly" this is your attribution, nowhere hinted at in my comments.................."Republicans have now had six years with which to come up with a viable replacement for Obamacare." The Dems then and President Obama now have stated their opposition to any/all alternative(s), so any such offerings would be just as you stated "futile".
Yes, they've had to increase the savings projected for the program, not the cost.
nowhere hinted at in my comments
Except of course that you're complaining that it doesn't do what you imagine it was promised to do.
The Dems then and President Obama now have stated their opposition to any/all alternative(s), so any such offerings would be just as you stated "futile".
The Democrats and Obama alike have always signaled their willingness to negotiate and at least discuss proposals, unlike Republicans. But they can't discuss what isn't offered. That's on the Republicans, not the Democrats.
"Yes, they've had to increase the savings projected for the program, not the cost" You should read this article. Your cite(s)? LOL,........... "Except of course that you're complaining that it doesn't do what you imagine it was promised to do." .....once again your attribution..............."The Democrats and Obama alike have always signaled their willingness to negotiate and at least discuss proposals,"... This is a lie from the get go. the Dem's denied all Republican offerings to this bill throughout it's construct.
Your complaints would begin to have any credibility if you could cite them. Since you refuse that request I think we can take it as read that you can't. Everything you've said flatly contradicts the public record, so I'll just leave it here.
Recognizing that this is futile, but at what point in his speech did he claim immediate results? Where did he say "the moment this comes into law health care will never become more expensive and premiums will drop immediately"?
This program is a start. It's already dropped national spending on health care and it's projected to save billions that wouldn't have been saved otherwise. It isn't perfect and it has places that can be improved. The fact that you're complaining because it isn't already perfect is just silly.
Republicans have now had six years with which to come up with a viable replacement for Obamacare. Not once have they ever produced a serious proposal, just specious claims that they'll do it eventually. Until they do I'll take incremental progress over none at all.
Futile is correct. He promised immediate relief. "Projections" have proved incorrect. .........."The fact that you're complaining because it isn't already perfect is just silly" this is your attribution, nowhere hinted at in my comments.................."Republicans have now had six years with which to come up with a viable replacement for Obamacare." The Dems then and President Obama now have stated their opposition to any/all alternative(s), so any such offerings would be just as you stated "futile".
Go on. Cite it. Be specific.
Yes, they've had to increase the savings projected for the program, not the cost.
Except of course that you're complaining that it doesn't do what you imagine it was promised to do.
The Democrats and Obama alike have always signaled their willingness to negotiate and at least discuss proposals, unlike Republicans. But they can't discuss what isn't offered. That's on the Republicans, not the Democrats.
"Yes, they've had to increase the savings projected for the program, not the cost" You should read this article. Your cite(s)? LOL,........... "Except of course that you're complaining that it doesn't do what you imagine it was promised to do." .....once again your attribution..............."The Democrats and Obama alike have always signaled their willingness to negotiate and at least discuss proposals,"... This is a lie from the get go. the Dem's denied all Republican offerings to this bill throughout it's construct.
Your complaints would begin to have any credibility if you could cite them. Since you refuse that request I think we can take it as read that you can't. Everything you've said flatly contradicts the public record, so I'll just leave it here.
You may take "it" any way you wish, however your reliance on "cites" is one way, no? LOL