• spaceghoti
    +2

    He promised immediate relief.

    Go on. Cite it. Be specific.

    "Projections" have proved incorrect.

    Yes, they've had to increase the savings projected for the program, not the cost.

    nowhere hinted at in my comments

    Except of course that you're complaining that it doesn't do what you imagine it was promised to do.

    The Dems then and President Obama now have stated their opposition to any/all alternative(s), so any such offerings would be just as you stated "futile".

    The Democrats and Obama alike have always signaled their willingness to negotiate and at least discuss proposals, unlike Republicans. But they can't discuss what isn't offered. That's on the Republicans, not the Democrats.

  • MAGISTERLUDI
    +1
    @spaceghoti -

    "Yes, they've had to increase the savings projected for the program, not the cost" You should read this article. Your cite(s)? LOL,........... "Except of course that you're complaining that it doesn't do what you imagine it was promised to do." .....once again your attribution..............."The Democrats and Obama alike have always signaled their willingness to negotiate and at least discuss proposals,"... This is a lie from the get go. the Dem's denied all Republican offerings to this bill throughout it's construct.

  • spaceghoti
    +3
    @MAGISTERLUDI -

    Your complaints would begin to have any credibility if you could cite them. Since you refuse that request I think we can take it as read that you can't. Everything you've said flatly contradicts the public record, so I'll just leave it here.

    • MAGISTERLUDI (edited 8 years ago)
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      @spaceghoti -

      You may take "it" any way you wish, however your reliance on "cites" is one way, no? LOL