• MAGISTERLUDI (edited 9 years ago)
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    @spaceghoti -

    The comment you and I both responded to was "There was a reason America succeeded from Britain.". Your "high taxes" and "How are you being taxed without representation?" are solely your attributions, there are many grievances addressed,that would/could apply today. You may have the last word.

  • spaceghoti
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    @MAGISTERLUDI -

    The comment you and I both responded to was "There was a reason America succeeded from Britain.". Your "high taxes" and "How are you being taxed without representation?" are solely your attributions, there are many grievances addressed,that would/could apply today. You may have the last word.

    The topic he was addressing involved taxes, so there was nothing inappropriate from following the context. If you feel there are more aspects of the colonies' relationship with Britain that apply today you're invited to clarify. Otherwise I'll take from the context that this is merely jingoism and the argument has no substance.

  • FurtWigglepants
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    @MAGISTERLUDI -

    Can you point out those grievances for me?

  • MAGISTERLUDI (edited 9 years ago)
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    @FurtWigglepants -

    Nah man, I made them up.

  • FurtWigglepants
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    @MAGISTERLUDI -

    That wasn't what I meant. I want to know where you're coming from but everything you point out is unspecific rhetoric, no details or nuances in your arguments. It's like you're trying to make an argument but aren't, You have no substance.

  • MAGISTERLUDI
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    @FurtWigglepants -

    I should guess you might make yourself familiar with the Declaration of Independence.

  • FurtWigglepants
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    @MAGISTERLUDI -

    Again no substance in what you're trying to say here. Why, what point specifically are you looking at and how does it apply to your argument here? I can read and look at the declaration, analyze it for weeks but I would still not know why you pointed me to the document. How does it support anything you're trying to say here. I can know everything about it but that doesn't tell me what you're thinking.

  • MAGISTERLUDI (edited 9 years ago)
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    @FurtWigglepants -

    Your only discernible query=............"Can you point out those grievances for me?"................. I can only repeat myself so many times, Read the "Declaration of Independence" they are listed there. Those are the only "grievances" mentioned by me in this entire thread. If you have other concerns state them, be specific.

  • FurtWigglepants
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    @MAGISTERLUDI -

    You're not being specific. Just "read this document" that doesn't help me understand why. It's like you don't actually have an opinion rather just shouting rhetoric and spoon fed jingoism. How does this 250 year old document translate into modern day woe's especially when the context and nuances of the original have absolutely no bearing here.

  • MAGISTERLUDI (edited 9 years ago)
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    @FurtWigglepants -

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.= selective enforcement of Federal Law...... He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.= NSA, TSA, et al........... He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation.=Nuclear treaty with Iran....He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us,= terrorism foreign and domestic, racial divisiveness, et al..

    • FurtWigglepants
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      @MAGISTERLUDI -

      I don't think any of those things are accurately comparable, but thank you for spelling things out.

      Also a hitting enter and then space a few times will format things better.