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  • idlethreat
    +2

    I've been using WindowsLies on my one Windows 7 workstation. Seems to work OK, but I have seen the windows 10 reminder pop back up, so have run it on more than one occasion.

    I did put in for the windows 10 reservation, but refuse to upgrade until they get their house in order and stop it with the telemetry shit. If they attempt to download the image, i'll just delete and lock down the directory so it can't copy anything there anyway.

    In other news, looking forward to the class-action lawsuit against MS for all of the people on metered connections who are suddenly paying lots of money for this "free" upgrade they didn't want in the first place.

    • redalastor
      +4

      And yet people believe that Linux is the complicated one. :-P

      • hallucigenia
        +3

        As a Linux user, it's funny to see all of the FUD out there. When somebody complains about Windows, it "comes with the territory"; when somebody complains about Linux, it's "Oh, see how complicated and hard to use Linux is!!!" I have one friend who seems to think that Linux users have to compile their kernels once a day, and he completely ignores anyone trying to tell him different.

        • redalastor
          +3

          "I went to [some site] and downloaded [an .exe] under Linux and when I clicked on it, didn't work! Why doesn't it 'just work'!".

          Well, I went to [some site] under Windows and had to spend 30 seconds figuring which was the legitimate download and which were malware masquerading as the download, then I had to click next a few times while taking care to check and uncheck boxes not to accept 'special offers' for more malware. Why can't I just open the package manager and have the whole install process automatically done for me without risking to infect my computer every time I want to download legit software?

      • idlethreat
        +3

        I like Linux. It's a good OS. I've used it since 0.98-pre-1. Still use it today for a good number of tasks.

        While it's fine for some things, there's currently zero support for the DAW's and hundreds of dollars in audio plugins that I use. For my use case, it's a non-starter.

        OSX is superb for a lot of things too, but I'd rather give Redmond my money than every have to deal with Apple's Audio/MIDI control panel again. Not to mention a lot of the plugins I use don't have Audio Units.

        So, for now, Windows 7 on my one and only workstation it is.

        • Gozzin
          +2

          I've used Linux for 12 years..I can't imagine how they would get W10 on my Linux boxes,but they are welcome to try.

    • FamousFellah
      +1

      That "telemetry shit" can be turned off if you don't want the features it's needed for. They included it because a lot of users want things like personalized search suggestions and useful auto-correct, which require data collection and analysis. MS also included data collection to help their developers detect issues with the OS and write patches accordingly, but that's been a part of Windows for a long, long time.

      • redalastor
        +1

        That telemetry shit is not something it is reasonable for your OS to do and thus enabling it by default is underhanded and dishonest.

        If Microsoft provided a guide on startup after a fresh install and walked you through the new features telling you what it needs to collect to have them available, then there would not be an uproar.

        • FamousFellah
          +1

          That would be much better, yes.

          But users who don't understand technology don't like going through all that, so someone at MS probably called it a win-win with "convenience" and data collection.

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