• drunkenninja (edited 9 years ago)
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    @MAGISTERLUDI -

    I don't think you're using the word "culture" in the right context, as the word generally implies betterment or refinement of individuals, especially though education (taken directly from Wikipedia's definition of the word). For the sake of argument though, please describe to me the opportunities available to a low income American citizen born into a life of earning less than a living wage employed by fat cat capitalistic powerhouses like Walmart who would like nothing more but to keep you exactly where you are. Its a ruthless cycle, a machine built to flourish off of the blood and sweat of the less fortunate born into a life of work to eat, and eat to live. I cannot disagree with you more that such a majority of people deserve to be in a situation like that, especially by a model as outdated by today's standards as the music industry is to technological advancements. The capitalism you're referring to is long dead, out smarted by corporations and literally shat on by the very same people that were enriched by it, it is no longer the efficient way at creating wealth, instead it is a control mechanism to retain it.

  • MAGISTERLUDI
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    @drunkenninja -

    Culture as in,"The sum of attitudes, customs, and beliefs that distinguishes one group of people from another" As to opportunities, finish high school, go to college or a trade apprenticeship. Start your own business, many require little investment other than time.

  • drunkenninja
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    @MAGISTERLUDI -

    I would hardly describe low income families living in poverty and struggling to make ends meet as having any cultural significance to America as a country. Perhaps you would agree that this is America's culture as opposed to other countries... crafted by capitalism and reinforced by corporations. Either way, we circle back to the concept of free time, sadly this is the one thing most of these people need more of outside of their 10 hour shifts and 2nd jobs.

  • MAGISTERLUDI (edited 9 years ago)
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    @drunkenninja -

    One's attitudes and beliefs are a result of their culture. Being told you are second class and have little to no legitimate opportunities are a fact of life of poverty. Until one can unburden themselves from such negativity, they are apt to self-fulfill that prophecy. Ten hour shifts would be a godsend to most entrepreneurs.

  • drunkenninja
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    @MAGISTERLUDI -

    So, to generalize... "If you believe in yourself hard enough to overcome a system designed to shit on you, wonderful things can happen". Got it :)

  • MAGISTERLUDI (edited 9 years ago)
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    @drunkenninja -

    You captured it quite precisely: your belief. Many succeed/benefit from the system, from every background, how or why is it so selective to shit just on you? (By "you" I mean just the selected)

  • drunkenninja
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    @MAGISTERLUDI -

    I think the more important question is why is the system shitting on anyone?

  • MAGISTERLUDI
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    @drunkenninja -

    Is it "shitting" on anyone, or are they "shitting themselves"?

    • drunkenninja
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      @MAGISTERLUDI -

      I think at this point we should agree to disagree, its obvious this isn't going to go anywhere. So lets call it a day, till next time dude, good talk.