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  • septimine
    +7

    In so sick of these shootings. Something has to stop this.

    • Dernhelm
      +5

      What do you think that the answer is? Me personally I think that it lies with mental health. I think that if we take some of the money that we are putting into the prison system and reinvest it into the mental health we would be able to help a lot more people. This way they will not feel that they need to go on these mass killings in order to kill themselves.

      • KingAztek
        +6

        I respectfully disagree. We need much, much tighter gun control laws in the US. Mental health reform is of course good, but it's not the issue. These mass shootings account for a minor percentage of all the shootings that occur in the US.

        • spaceghoti
          +4

          But...but...but...Second Amendment!

          Seriously, we need both: better care for our sick citizens and better controls on firearms and their use. There are people who proudly proclaim after events like this that everything that should be done to prevent shootings is already being done. Apparently, needless violence is a unavoidable consequence of living in a free society.

          • KingAztek
            +4

            I actually used to argue this point. I would say "in order to be able to one day fight off a tyrannical government, one must accept a certain amount of violent crime on society." It's just that, I wouldn't consider myself a member of a "well regulated militia", even though my government says I am a member of it. We need to reform the definition of militia to something faaar more reasonable

            • jmcs
              +3

              How did the US get to the point where "well regulated" means every redneck and their cousin?

            • KingAztek
              +4
              @jmcs -

              The common interpretation is that militia is self-regulatory

        • FurtWigglepants
          +1

          Should we ban kitchen knives as well? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mass_stabbings

          • KingAztek
            +2

            I'm not advocating that we ban everything that may or may not be used as a weapon. My comments are strictly structured around guns.

            • FurtWigglepants
              +1

              And why are they strictly structured around guns? There are many other weapons used to harm many people at the hands of one.

            • KingAztek
              +2
              @FurtWigglepants -

              True, but guns are used far more often. It's illogical to ban knifes, because there, are many, many non-lethal uses for knifes. Guns however (hunting, self-defense, or otherwise) are meant to do one thing: kill. I'm not advocating we can all guns either. There are many people in this country who still hunt for sustenance and/or sell the meat.

            • FurtWigglepants
              +2
              @KingAztek -

              Guns don't seem to be the reason for this, in fact it looks like the relationship of homicides per guns owned is inversely correlated.

      • septimine
        +1

        For one thing, stop giving out the killers name and manifesto. Then mental health care, and better enforcement of gun laws.

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  • KingAztek
    +6

    Enough is enough. I've had enough of hearing about shootings in my local news. I've had enough of hearing about shootings on the national news. I've had enough of hearing about shootings in theaters, malls, schools, government places and neighborhoods. I've had enough of hearing about accidental shootings. I've also had enough about hearing about the 2nd amendment.

    The right to bear arms in a well regulated militia, is what's not to be infringed. The founders didn't there to be an anarchistic interpretation of the 2nd amendment. If they wanted to do that, the 2nd amendment would simply read "The people's right to bear arms shall not be infringed". What's so jacked is our current interpretation of militia.

    • zerozechs (edited 3 years ago)
      +2

      All other times when the constitution specifically states that the "right of the people" has been interpreted as a right reserved for the people. The 2nd amendment also explicitly states this. If you'd like that to mean something different, then good luck changing its interpretation elsewhere. If it was meant to protect the ability of the citizenry to form militias, it would have read so. It says "the right of the people", thus the people have a right to bear arms. The SCOTUS has consistently read the 2nd Amendment as such.

      Well regulated meant trained. Militia meant able bodied males, of a certain age range, and probably white. Modern interpretations with universal rights has taken militia to mean the whole of the citizenry.

      You want a well regulated militia? Support firearms training.

  • eggpl4nt
    +4

    You should edit your two word description, it's inaccurate.

    At least three people were killed

    The article you posted doesn't even say six were killed, and I haven't read any articles about this event that mention any more than two people being killed.

    • Appaloosa
      +7

      Gunman killed two then killed himself.

  • DrunkOldMan
    +2

    Get rid of "Gun Free Zones" as a start.............

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