I quit. I'm officially done with it all. I'm done with reddit and I'm done with the meta drama. I've been trying to stay objective for the past month, but I'm trying so hard just to find what the hell the truth is.
If what Yishan Wong is saying is true, then I apologize to Ellen Pao. While I never participated in that shit show hate brigade, I believed the rumors and I'm sorry. If Yishan is lying and this is all just another power trip of his, then I just don't really care. I'm tired of the reddit drama. I'm been following this for far too long for me to care while it descends to this level of bullshit.
Let this be a lesson to everybody. The community, the admins (both Reddit and Snapzu), and especially to myself. Don't expect things to just magically fall into place. Actually communicate. The only way for people to come to the right conclusions is with the right information. It is just ridiculous to expect the community to magically figure it out by themselves. That's not how rumors end. Rumors only get stronger if they are the only narrative.
Pao and her husband's shady past were enough for me to not want her as CEO. So I don't apologize for that. But yeah, I agree about the communication. So much speculation that people are throwing around as fact on Reddit all because the admins don't want to be upfront.
Ya, I'm not trying to say Ellen was without fault and I believe that she was placed on a glass cliff from the beginning. However, the things that have come out as probably not being her were the things that convinced me to sign the petition. If I knew what I know now, I'm not sure if I would've signed it. But it's too late now. To give us signers credit, when deciding whether we thought that she should step down or not, I don't think the vast majority of us considered "Hey, this could just be some admin clique drama that rivals that of middle schoolers"
Also, as I stated in my original post, this all depends on if Yishan was actually being honest. There are enough things in the comment that are worth being skeptical about that I am refraining from actually saying which one I believe is true. However, just the fact that the community has descended to this point is what made me finally go over the edge and just give up on reddit.
I just deleted my reddit account tonight. It felt quite liberating. Wherever the truth lies, It's under so many layers of lies I don't care to wade through. I'll stay on Snapzu and Voat, where the communities are actually awesome and the admins are great.
Yeah, I was never on either side of the Pao thing, I didn't really give a shit. It seemed really stupid, that whole thing. But just the way these people are acting makes me never want to go back there again. When the people running the site act as childish as the users I don't want to be a part of that. All I want is a site that posts interesting and informative things that people can discuss without resorting to being 10 year olds. I don't care about gossip.
I try. But the thing is, I've always loved the meta-site. It is what brought me in in the first place. The site really doesn't offer anything in the case of news that I can't get anywhere else. It was always the "being a redditor" that was fun. But it's really gone for me now, and I think looking over the entire community today has really cemented that for me. I just don't want to be a part of the community anymore. Either side of it. I'm not sure if I am going to delete my account/keep posting, but I think now is when I officially stop calling myself "a redditor". I think its time for me to take a long break from meta-drama.
After reading Yishan's post, I clicked log out. I doubt I'll set foot in there much after this.
Ever since finding Snapzu, I only used it to mostly keep track of a Dutch subreddit and to post my latest subtitles for Titansgrave on the CaptionTabletop subreddit (which has no visitors anyway), just to keep that all in one place. But I'm done with the site.
I quit. I'm officially done with it all. I'm done with reddit and I'm done with the meta drama. I've been trying to stay objective for the past month, but I'm trying so hard just to find what the hell the truth is.
If what Yishan Wong is saying is true, then I apologize to Ellen Pao. While I never participated in that shit show hate brigade, I believed the rumors and I'm sorry. If Yishan is lying and this is all just another power trip of his, then I just don't really care. I'm tired of the reddit drama. I'm been following this for far too long for me to care while it descends to this level of bullshit.
Let this be a lesson to everybody. The community, the admins (both Reddit and Snapzu), and especially to myself. Don't expect things to just magically fall into place. Actually communicate. The only way for people to come to the right conclusions is with the right information. It is just ridiculous to expect the community to magically figure it out by themselves. That's not how rumors end. Rumors only get stronger if they are the only narrative.
Pao and her husband's shady past were enough for me to not want her as CEO. So I don't apologize for that. But yeah, I agree about the communication. So much speculation that people are throwing around as fact on Reddit all because the admins don't want to be upfront.
Ya, I'm not trying to say Ellen was without fault and I believe that she was placed on a glass cliff from the beginning. However, the things that have come out as probably not being her were the things that convinced me to sign the petition. If I knew what I know now, I'm not sure if I would've signed it. But it's too late now. To give us signers credit, when deciding whether we thought that she should step down or not, I don't think the vast majority of us considered "Hey, this could just be some admin clique drama that rivals that of middle schoolers"
Also, as I stated in my original post, this all depends on if Yishan was actually being honest. There are enough things in the comment that are worth being skeptical about that I am refraining from actually saying which one I believe is true. However, just the fact that the community has descended to this point is what made me finally go over the edge and just give up on reddit.
I just deleted my reddit account tonight. It felt quite liberating. Wherever the truth lies, It's under so many layers of lies I don't care to wade through. I'll stay on Snapzu and Voat, where the communities are actually awesome and the admins are great.
Yeah, I was never on either side of the Pao thing, I didn't really give a shit. It seemed really stupid, that whole thing. But just the way these people are acting makes me never want to go back there again. When the people running the site act as childish as the users I don't want to be a part of that. All I want is a site that posts interesting and informative things that people can discuss without resorting to being 10 year olds. I don't care about gossip.
Just shrug off the serious side of things and enjoy the drama for its entertainment value. That's how I've gotten through the past month.
I try. But the thing is, I've always loved the meta-site. It is what brought me in in the first place. The site really doesn't offer anything in the case of news that I can't get anywhere else. It was always the "being a redditor" that was fun. But it's really gone for me now, and I think looking over the entire community today has really cemented that for me. I just don't want to be a part of the community anymore. Either side of it. I'm not sure if I am going to delete my account/keep posting, but I think now is when I officially stop calling myself "a redditor". I think its time for me to take a long break from meta-drama.
After reading Yishan's post, I clicked log out. I doubt I'll set foot in there much after this.
Ever since finding Snapzu, I only used it to mostly keep track of a Dutch subreddit and to post my latest subtitles for Titansgrave on the CaptionTabletop subreddit (which has no visitors anyway), just to keep that all in one place. But I'm done with the site.