• AdelleChattre
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    @NotWearingPants -

    There’s a video clip of CNN playing in some open tab in the background right now, and it’s bunny-faced ‘experts’ putting the same kind of B-movie acting into Russiagate as Republicans used to put into their Benghazi crocodile tears. Can’t they hear themselves? It’s cringe-inducing. Things like that; the new war of the month; the way corporate media mishandled the Sanders campaign; the vaunted, glorious beauty of our weapons systems; they all combine to give you an idea how trustworthy the press is. And they’re not. I couldn’t vouch for any source , let alone one you should blindly accept at face value. I’m not even going to claim that there are any that are worthwhile, as they’ve by and large all unmasked themselves lately.

    What I will say is that no, I wasn’t talking about patriotism. Then again, I thought it was patriotic to call the Vietnam War what it was, so you and I might mean different things by that. If you’ve got patriotism mixed up with what Trump’s about, you might wanna look harder. Hint: Brownshirts don’t stay in the picture long, and it doesn’t end well for anyone. And if you’ve got no end of things you can hawk up for spitting at anti-fascists but you’re certain hate crimes are all fake, you may need to broaden your newsgrazing territory a bit. That or pare it down, FFS.

    • NotWearingPants
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      @AdelleChattre -

      CNN lost me for good when they said it would be illegal to read wikileaks, I had to trust them to report on it. I can rarely watch the five or Hannity on Fox, and local network news. My TV, when it's on, is usually on sports or Netflix/Prime

      0< number of hate incidents/crimes > number reported

      0 < number of racists/ misogynists /nazis/actual deplorables > number reported

      Where on that spectrum, we'll have to disagree.

      I've seen enough of war to know that protesting it usually is patriotic. Afghanistan was necessary, and good, until they turned it into nation building, then it was shit. Iraq was completely unnecessary the second time, and questionable the first. Panama was good. Grenada was good. Vietnam was shit, but you have to look at it through the bipolar world of the cold war to understand it. Everything before that, I only know from history books, and those are written by the victors.

      This has been a good conversation. I like to talk to people who know how to disagree without being disagreeable. Happens too rarely.