Everyone should be able to get Windows 10 on July 29th, both from stores and as an upgrade according to their upgrade site (see step 2. Install) and their FAQ (see when do new devices arrive in stores). It sounds like the people saying that you can't get it then are wrong.
Unless I'm one of the consumers that don't understand the concept of RTM...
You’ll get a notification after July 29, 2015 once Windows 10 is downloaded to your device. Install it right away or pick a time that’s good for you. <
You know, now that you've brought this up to me, it does seem like an RTM release. Especially with the whole NewEgg situation with accidentally posting the OEM release date.
I've been under the impression that they would roll out the upgrade to the people who have reserved their free copy in groups to sort out any issues that might pop up before releasing it to everyone. Now I see that's basically what an RTM is. So, thanks!
I still think that it won't be a super long time after the 29th until you get your copy, though. A lot of places are making it out to seem like months.
Gabe Aul (man in charge of the Insider program) implied that one of the reasons affecting the rollout timing is ensuring users get a good experience on their machine...so I think they may be flagging certain hardware and delaying rollout until they can fix specific issues.
I think RTM is a different concept this time around. Microsoft is expected to RTM Windows 10 this week (internally), but development will continue, possibly with new builds released before general availability (July 29th).
It wont be a long time at all, days, if anything. That's why I don't understand why all these people are putting out these whiny articles about the release date "WHY YOU WONT GET WINDOWS 10 ON JULY 29TH" "YOUR COPY OF WINDOWS IS COMING LATE" "WINDOWS DROPS THE BALL WITH RELEASE SCHEDULE" No! Shut up. They're literally right on schedule. There are plenty of things to be frustrated with Microsoft with and have been over the years but this is not one of them I just started this discussion to vent that to somebody who would understand. They've executed the development, release, and distribution flawlessly so far. If the media turns this into another "Windows 8 is a huge disappointment nobody appreciates." Thing I'm going to freak out.
I jumped on it when they first released the developer program (not sure which version?), and had it running as a virtual machine, but gave up on it quickly after. Not for any particular reason either, I just didn't really know what to do with it. Since then I've just been keeping up with the news and reading the change logs every once in awhile.
My biggest question about it is actually about gaming, and the Xbox tie in. What I don't understand is whether or not you can play Xbox games natively on any Windows 10 computer, or that it's basically Xbox's take on stream-gaming? Kind of like Steam is with their Steam Machines, but in reverse (console -> computer).
Other things would be more sysadmin related like the Package Manager, or the updated CMD.
Everyone should be able to get Windows 10 on July 29th, both from stores and as an upgrade according to their upgrade site (see step 2. Install) and their FAQ (see when do new devices arrive in stores). It sounds like the people saying that you can't get it then are wrong.
Unless I'm one of the consumers that don't understand the concept of RTM...
You know, now that you've brought this up to me, it does seem like an RTM release. Especially with the whole NewEgg situation with accidentally posting the OEM release date.
I've been under the impression that they would roll out the upgrade to the people who have reserved their free copy in groups to sort out any issues that might pop up before releasing it to everyone. Now I see that's basically what an RTM is. So, thanks!
I still think that it won't be a super long time after the 29th until you get your copy, though. A lot of places are making it out to seem like months.
Gabe Aul (man in charge of the Insider program) implied that one of the reasons affecting the rollout timing is ensuring users get a good experience on their machine...so I think they may be flagging certain hardware and delaying rollout until they can fix specific issues.
I think RTM is a different concept this time around. Microsoft is expected to RTM Windows 10 this week (internally), but development will continue, possibly with new builds released before general availability (July 29th).
It wont be a long time at all, days, if anything. That's why I don't understand why all these people are putting out these whiny articles about the release date "WHY YOU WONT GET WINDOWS 10 ON JULY 29TH" "YOUR COPY OF WINDOWS IS COMING LATE" "WINDOWS DROPS THE BALL WITH RELEASE SCHEDULE" No! Shut up. They're literally right on schedule. There are plenty of things to be frustrated with Microsoft with and have been over the years but this is not one of them I just started this discussion to vent that to somebody who would understand. They've executed the development, release, and distribution flawlessly so far. If the media turns this into another "Windows 8 is a huge disappointment nobody appreciates." Thing I'm going to freak out.
I agree.
Most of it looks pretty promising. Have you been able to play around with it at all?
I've been in the Windows Insider program since build 9926 haha AMA :)
I jumped on it when they first released the developer program (not sure which version?), and had it running as a virtual machine, but gave up on it quickly after. Not for any particular reason either, I just didn't really know what to do with it. Since then I've just been keeping up with the news and reading the change logs every once in awhile.
My biggest question about it is actually about gaming, and the Xbox tie in. What I don't understand is whether or not you can play Xbox games natively on any Windows 10 computer, or that it's basically Xbox's take on stream-gaming? Kind of like Steam is with their Steam Machines, but in reverse (console -> computer).
Other things would be more sysadmin related like the Package Manager, or the updated CMD.