As the community grows, things will change (without intervention from the admins.) At this point the community is really delicate. All it would take it 20-30 people to make /t/dankmemes and fill the front page up with their own content.
Actually, not so much. Snapzu has a built-in content control algorithms that check how much content and votes are incoming from every single tribe and applies an average based threshold to the vote score (a number based on a dozen different variables) used in sorting content on the front page. This allows us to keep the content on the front page from being over run by any single tribe or group of users, the system gets even more interesting with topic based vote weight assignment and dynamic source based voting weights. All in all, we carefully looked at all the general problems an older platform such as reddit has and did what we can to proactively create a system that helped us resolve them. Also, not to mention, our community wouldn't put up with such shit :)
I'm curious as to how that works, because looking at the front page right now, the votes that come from "Local Feed" and "Front Page" seem to be the biggest chunks on most of the posts there, especially the really popular ones (I'm looking in the "Magazine" view.)
Regardless, its obvious that the intervention I was talking about is taking place so my point was moot.
You're right, currently most of the votes do come from Local Feed and the Front Page, so the problem you mentioned about a single tribe sprouting up and dominating the front page with dank memes is non-existent. However, if such a situation was to arise, you wouldn't see more than 10% of the front page filled with such content and that is just the hard limit, because based on dynamically changing variables and the amount of other communities competing for the front page, it would become ever much harder for large over-powering communities to keep making the front page. Ultimately, the great thing about this concept is that all the BIG communities will still make the front page based on the users upvoting content within them, but with our approach we make sure the front page isn't over run by a single powerful tribe(s) giving smaller tribes a chance to also be a part of the main stream of content.
Hmm... are there any safeguards for similar takeover of the front page from Local Feed votes and Front Page votes? Because the same could be done trivially using those two: post your dank meme in /t/dankmemes, have your "tribe mates" go to your local feed and vote it onto the front page, and keep voting on it on the front page.
Yep of course there are! We have front page vote weights assigned to each vote coming from a follower. The more followers an account has, the less those "feed" votes are worth when it comes to the FPS (Front Page Score), the front page votes are also calculated in the same fashion but in order to remain true to the sources where votes come from we show them in much the same way.
Btw, none of this functionality effects the way tribes tally votes and display content within.
Actually, not so much. Snapzu has a built-in content control algorithms that check how much content and votes are incoming from every single tribe and applies an average based threshold to the vote score (a number based on a dozen different variables) used in sorting content on the front page. This allows us to keep the content on the front page from being over run by any single tribe or group of users, the system gets even more interesting with topic based vote weight assignment and dynamic source based voting weights. All in all, we carefully looked at all the general problems an older platform such as reddit has and did what we can to proactively create a system that helped us resolve them. Also, not to mention, our community wouldn't put up with such shit :)
I'm curious as to how that works, because looking at the front page right now, the votes that come from "Local Feed" and "Front Page" seem to be the biggest chunks on most of the posts there, especially the really popular ones (I'm looking in the "Magazine" view.)
Regardless, its obvious that the intervention I was talking about is taking place so my point was moot.
You're right, currently most of the votes do come from Local Feed and the Front Page, so the problem you mentioned about a single tribe sprouting up and dominating the front page with dank memes is non-existent. However, if such a situation was to arise, you wouldn't see more than 10% of the front page filled with such content and that is just the hard limit, because based on dynamically changing variables and the amount of other communities competing for the front page, it would become ever much harder for large over-powering communities to keep making the front page. Ultimately, the great thing about this concept is that all the BIG communities will still make the front page based on the users upvoting content within them, but with our approach we make sure the front page isn't over run by a single powerful tribe(s) giving smaller tribes a chance to also be a part of the main stream of content.
Hmm... are there any safeguards for similar takeover of the front page from Local Feed votes and Front Page votes? Because the same could be done trivially using those two: post your dank meme in /t/dankmemes, have your "tribe mates" go to your local feed and vote it onto the front page, and keep voting on it on the front page.
Yep of course there are! We have front page vote weights assigned to each vote coming from a follower. The more followers an account has, the less those "feed" votes are worth when it comes to the FPS (Front Page Score), the front page votes are also calculated in the same fashion but in order to remain true to the sources where votes come from we show them in much the same way.
Btw, none of this functionality effects the way tribes tally votes and display content within.
We should probably delete all these posts, we've spilled all the secrets!!
There is a lot more to these than meets the eye :) I think we are safe!