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  • Pantera (edited 4 years ago)
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    All forms of government have failure as long as people are involved. All over the world and in all societies there has been high middle and low class. Even when the world was set up in tribes. Socialism looks great on paper but it still has people involved and very much room for corruption. Some people will work harder for less. Some people will get less. Some people will get more. Capitalism is the same in that it has people involved so there is corruption. I see capitalism edging out socialism because at least a common man can carve out an existence that he can be happy with. With socialism you're kind of stuck where you are.

    Is government even necessary? Yes and no. No because people existed without formal governments. Yes because the governments are here and if you don't have one other governments will simply move in and take your stuff. Ask the American populations, North and South. So to prevent England from stopping by and claiming our lands we have to set up something. While we're at it will take this stuff over here. I recently read 1984 and I recommend anyone read it. George Orwell was a socialist. The newspeak, thoughtcrime and doublethink is just as real in every type of government as the ones he was speaking out in. Even his own. You can see it happening with the conservatives and the liberals. Fox news gets downed as biased but can you imagine if Hilarity Clinton was republican? You'd hear nothing but Benghazi until she dropped from the running.

    And this is the real war being fought. Something between the liberals and conservatives the dems and repubs. Us vs them. Ever wonder why? It's a huge circle jerk to keep people who are in power in power. How do you end that? Revolution! But the revolution will just set up someone else to be in power and the actual common people will NEVER be free. Ever. How many people did Che kill to set up a dictatorship? How many people did Stalin kill? A lot of people die in these revolutions just to set someone else on the throne.

    So yes, socialism can work but it depends on the leaders being honest. Good luck with that.

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    • Pantera
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      Even stalinism can work as long as the leaders are good and fair. I'm just not confident in that we'll ever have leaders that aren't at least a little corrupt.

      The main gripe I have with socialism is that it makes common people dependent on the state for almost everything. Eventually there is revolt and then little mr I want to run it all steps in and you are in a very oppressed state.

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    • Pantera
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      The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do. --Stalin

      I am almost dead center in those political grid things. A little high and to the left. I want to believe in this type of government or that kind but I simply have no faith that any type is beyond corruption and therefore will not have my interests in mind. It's just how human nature works.

      At any rate, if you live in the USA, it seems to be heading to socialism anyway. I hope it doesn't but you'll be thrilled heh. Will I survive? I think so but it depends on which freedoms they choose to take from me. Man has existed through all kinds of stuff so I'm sure I'll find a place.

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    • Pantera
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      It seems to be going for more welfare and more government in more things.