• jmcs
    +12

    Some of them it's because they are afraid of everything that is "different", others it's because it forces them to look at themselves and see they are "different". The first group it's the biggest the second one the noisiest.

    I see it as the other way around, saying that marriage is for procreation diminishes my marriage as an heterosexual man. I didn't marry my wife for procreation I did it because I love her and I want to build a life together with her. For me marriage is about love and happiness and every human being has the right to love, be loved and be happy.

    • a7h13f
      +8

      Regarding the second group, I can't for the life of me remember where I read it but I'll try to summarize as best I remember:

      The idea was that (some) people who claim that homosexuality is a choice feel that way because they've chosen to live their lives as heterosexuals, even though they feel same-sex attraction. They were just taught it was "evil", and forced themselves to remain closeted and try to live "normally".

    • redalastor
      +6

      I see it as the other way around, saying that marriage is for procreation diminishes my marriage as an heterosexual man.

      I've yet to get an answer for people with that opinion when asked if they want to prevent people who aren't fertile from marrying.

      I keep asking someone expresses that opinion though.

      • jmcs
        +5

        Oh I got one. There was a priest that told me that with heterosexuals couples there can always be a miracle if God wants. The guy seemed very proud of his argument.

        • redalastor
          +6

          Oh wow. And I guess people who don't want kids can always have an accident.

          God seems a bit weaksauce on that one though. Miracles by definition transcend natural laws so he could miracle a baby to a gay couple if he wanted.

        • Kalysta
          +3

          Perhaps that priest needs to be told of parthenogenesis. Throw that into the mix and at least lesbian couples could "miraculously" procreate.

          Also, thanks to the "miracle" of modern science, we can now create babies from 3 people (theoretically 2 women, 1 man). What's to stop a gay couple from going to a fertility clinic and undergoing this with a surrogate? Are they now not technically fertile? Also, you wouldn't even need a third person to splice genes between two lesbians, unless they wanted a boy.

          It's an ingenious argument 50 years ago. But with modern genetic knowledge and fertility science, it doesn't really hold water.