One of these cases is going to end up in front of SCOTUS, eventually. Can the government use a warrant for the 4th to get around the 5th. With the current makeup of the court, I'm afraid the answer is going to be "yes".
Then what is the point here? Everyone here seem to be pretty sure that the guy hides some crime, but let us all here theoretically pretend that in some parallel universe he is a law abiding guy that accidentally got into the situation and he just loves the idea of privacy so much, that he would rather suffer in jail for it?
If we don't pretend he is a law abiding guy, then all this does not make any sense. The law was made with a purpose to protect against crimes, not with a purpose to be executed in a puristic manner for the sake of its own execution accuracy.
I think we are all in agreement, from what I've read. The law is not in place to protect itself, but to protect society. Without that basis in mind, it becomes very dangerous as it sets it's actions on it's own precedence.
I think is is more likely that he has further incriminating evidence on his phone.
Another possibility, maybe even true, but that would be after the fact and I think this is what this case is about. A test of law, of due process.
One of these cases is going to end up in front of SCOTUS, eventually. Can the government use a warrant for the 4th to get around the 5th. With the current makeup of the court, I'm afraid the answer is going to be "yes".
I think we are on the same page. Let's hope we are wrong.
Then what is the point here? Everyone here seem to be pretty sure that the guy hides some crime, but let us all here theoretically pretend that in some parallel universe he is a law abiding guy that accidentally got into the situation and he just loves the idea of privacy so much, that he would rather suffer in jail for it? If we don't pretend he is a law abiding guy, then all this does not make any sense. The law was made with a purpose to protect against crimes, not with a purpose to be executed in a puristic manner for the sake of its own execution accuracy.
I think we are all in agreement, from what I've read. The law is not in place to protect itself, but to protect society. Without that basis in mind, it becomes very dangerous as it sets it's actions on it's own precedence.