• jcscher
    +4

    This is what this Indian does all the time. He may not even be into sports. I believe he did this now to get the most publicity and he got it ,especially in Cleveland. I do not agree with his reasoning for doing it now,but i am now seeing why he chose to do it now.

    • ChrisTyler
      +1

      Publicity is irrelevant to the law, something is either legal or it's not. You only need publicity if you're trying to sway public opinion, and if he thinks that filing an injunction in a Canadian court that effectively calls the residents of the second largest city in Ohio racists is going to win him any support, then he is seriously detached from reality.

    • AdelleChattre
      +3

      Tell me you don't feel even a twinge there might be something wrong with redface.

    • AdelleChattre (edited 7 years ago)
      +3
      @ChrisTyler -

      Or you are. What's the story: you figure the Cleveland Indians "already got away with it?" That grotesque bigotry appreciates with age? That if every Indians fan is guilty then nobody's guilty? Myself, I can't begin to imagine how Indians fans think it's up to them to decide whether it's offensive. Then again, there's lots I don't get. Like how Jeep sells Cherokees and none of that goes to the Cherokee. Or how Urban Outfitters got away with selling things as Navajo for years that had nothing whatsoever to do with anything Navajo. Chief Wahoo, on the other hand, is patently offensive right on the very face of it. Prima facie.

    • ChrisTyler
      +2
      @AdelleChattre -

      Chief Wahoo, on the other hand, is patently offensive right on the very face of it

      To you.

      If you want to go on a crusade to sanitize product names and company logos be my guest, but you need to disabuse yourself of the notion that your opinion matters to anyone but you, and perhaps the few people who share your view. The overwhelming majority of people don't find the name offensive, and the reason we know they don't is because if they did, they'd call it something else.

    • AdelleChattre
      +4
      @ChrisTyler -

      You don't get to decide if it's offensive. It's deeply offensive. Honestly, I think you'd be surprised how many people can see right off it's clearly bigotry.

      You can decide that's the example you want to set. For your kids. For your town. To the world. You have. That example was clearly set for you.

      Now, you can say "that's just the way it is." That's been said about plenty of bigoted forms of oppression. Every once in a while though, people — even people who came up from within a system like that — realize they could do better. It's even happened within baseball before.

      There will be a time when everyone recognizes Chief Wahoo is a repugnant vestige of an ugly, and proud, institution of white supremacy. You and Cleveland Indians fans like you, who think you're not racist despite your loyalty to your own particular brand of white supremacy, may wonder why it was ever so impirtant to you.

      Me and, as you say, the few people that agree with me, will try not to judge you too harshly. You're just backward. It's all you know, yet.

    • ChrisTyler
      +1
      @AdelleChattre -

      Me and, as you say, the few people that agree with me, will try not to judge you too harshly. You're just backward. It's all you know, yet.

      You go right on ahead and judge. Meanwhile I, and the overwhelming majority of society will continue to ignore you.

      And for the record, I'm a Marlins fan.