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Published 7 years ago by dianep with 8 Comments

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  • leweb
    +4

    Why the tax return fetishism? Isn't it enough that he's shown to be a xenophobic, racist, sexist, neo-fascist? Ok, sure, let's assume he cheated in his tax returns. How does this make him different from any other politician/corporation/billionaire?

    When are we going to discuss actually relevant policy issues instead of sensationalistic bullshit?

    • MAGISTERLUDI
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      "When are we going to discuss actually relevant policy issues instead of sensationalistic bullshit?"

      I should guess when you folks can get past your name calling?

      • leweb
        +5

        Hmmm, ok, I'm listening. Which of the names I used is incorrect? I'm happy to provide evidence for each one.

        • MAGISTERLUDI
          +2

          Be "happy", by all means.

          • leweb
            +3

            OK, since I know this is a presidential campaign and there's tons of bullshit being thrown around, I'm limiting myself to things he said for which we have video evidence, and don't require a lot of interpretation (and I can find/recall within ~30 mins):

            Xenophobia+racism:

            "When Mexico sends its people...they’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

            "It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably — probably — from the Middle East."

            Sexist:

            About Megyn Kelly: "You can see there's blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her ... whatever"

            "Do you believe in punishment for abortion?" "The answer is that... there has to be some form of punishment" "For the woman?" "Yes"

            Neo-fascist:

            Besides the racist/xenophobic quotes blaming America's problems on particular ethnic/foreign groups, we have quotes implying nostalgia for glorious times and justification of torture:

            "We don't have victories anymore. We used to have victories all the time. It would be -- you know, having victory after victory. We have nothing."

            "Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would. In a heartbeat. I would approve more than that. It works ... and if it doesn’t work, they deserve it anyway for what they do to us"

            I do admit that this is a loaded adjective though. However, having lived through a similar process in a different country, I cannot help but fear that this is not going to end well.

            • MAGISTERLUDI (edited 7 years ago)
              +1

              " there's tons of bullshit being thrown around, I'm limiting myself to things he said for which we have video evidence, and don't require a lot of interpretation". Not a "lot of interpretation", just yours, for example:

              "Do you believe in punishment for abortion?" You omitted "if abortion becomes illegal" I know of course you did not mean to.

              LOL

              My favorite: "Being a honest politician nowadays is a guarantee for failure it seems :(" Please list all known to you on the national scene, other than Hillary.

              LOL

            • leweb
              +4
              @MAGISTERLUDI -

              If your best argument is LOL I guess there's no point trying to have an intelligent debate. I'm out.

            • MAGISTERLUDI (edited 7 years ago)
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              @leweb -

              Can't you just admit your own "bullshit being thrown around" just hit you square in the face.

              Of course not, It's the appropriate LOL

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