Not angry. Sorry to've seemed so. There's a hierarchy of outrages around what they did, though. To me, posting what they did but not calling emergency ranks far worse than, in the moment of that man's death, making glib, callous remarks and laughing inappropriately — like we do all the time around here.
For you, I guess, it's that they have video that's the real crime. Like you and I never did anything to be ashamed of while someone was carving glyphs into clay tablets.
So angry? No, just trying to give these kids and their undeniable crime the kind of consideration they were too stupid to give that man as he died.
I wasn't clear I guess. Obviously it's far worse to have stood there without calling for help. But they didn't just do that. They were happy that this man was dying, and celebrating not doing anything to help him. Not only that, they were proud of it to the point of recording it. I'm sure you can see the difference. When people commit a crime, it's not just what they did that matters but the circumstances in which they did it.
To me, these people are undeserving of any consideration. They were not just stupid, they were inhuman.
There’s that poor man, in a picture frame. There’re those kids, standing in front of that picture frame, being callous, glib, and jeering on social media about it. They’re in a picture frame, too and you’re regarding it, judgy like them and publicly coy about it, like them. Outside of that in another picture frame, me, doing just the same, so I’m part of this cycle as much as you are. Outside that, like a reflection of a reflection, a regress of people winding out so far we lose sight of the central tragedy, the drowning victim, and are instead left with a miasma of the inability to put oneself in another’s position.
I don’t believe judgment comes from a wee man on a big throne in the clouds. I don’t believe real judgment comes from the courts any more than it does from public opinion or the authors of history or even feckless idiot bystanders to tragedy like these kids. That moment, for that man? That’s about his judgment. Not ours. As we look on in our respective reference frames, we can lose sight of it.
Funny how you seem angrier at me than at them. I just want them to receive what they gave, nothing else.
Not angry. Sorry to've seemed so. There's a hierarchy of outrages around what they did, though. To me, posting what they did but not calling emergency ranks far worse than, in the moment of that man's death, making glib, callous remarks and laughing inappropriately — like we do all the time around here.
For you, I guess, it's that they have video that's the real crime. Like you and I never did anything to be ashamed of while someone was carving glyphs into clay tablets.
So angry? No, just trying to give these kids and their undeniable crime the kind of consideration they were too stupid to give that man as he died.
I wasn't clear I guess. Obviously it's far worse to have stood there without calling for help. But they didn't just do that. They were happy that this man was dying, and celebrating not doing anything to help him. Not only that, they were proud of it to the point of recording it. I'm sure you can see the difference. When people commit a crime, it's not just what they did that matters but the circumstances in which they did it.
To me, these people are undeserving of any consideration. They were not just stupid, they were inhuman.
Seems a lot like what those kids were thinking in that moment.
Sure. Are you suggesting that they had a good reason to believe that about the drowning man?
There’s that poor man, in a picture frame. There’re those kids, standing in front of that picture frame, being callous, glib, and jeering on social media about it. They’re in a picture frame, too and you’re regarding it, judgy like them and publicly coy about it, like them. Outside of that in another picture frame, me, doing just the same, so I’m part of this cycle as much as you are. Outside that, like a reflection of a reflection, a regress of people winding out so far we lose sight of the central tragedy, the drowning victim, and are instead left with a miasma of the inability to put oneself in another’s position.
I don’t believe judgment comes from a wee man on a big throne in the clouds. I don’t believe real judgment comes from the courts any more than it does from public opinion or the authors of history or even feckless idiot bystanders to tragedy like these kids. That moment, for that man? That’s about his judgment. Not ours. As we look on in our respective reference frames, we can lose sight of it.