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Published 1 year ago with 11 Comments

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  • tranxene
    +6

    I've always said it; history repeats itself. And we should not count on our "elected" politicians to change this.

  • kxh
    +6

    That was depressing reading.

  • Maternitus (edited 1 year ago)
    +5

    We better listen to people like the old man in the column. Because most of us have never been in a war, let alone seeing one start. I wouldn't know what to do when such a thing happens. This is also not from just Trump, all these war-drums. Every US president ha s started or prolonged wars, all over the world and actually for the fuck of it. And business.

    Two years back even some clients started asking about it. People see, people know, people feel, but people are parallized. Like me, they don't know what to do. I understand "war" from a textbook explanation and from stories of people who've been in one, but it ends right there.

    History doesn't repeat itself, we let history repeat, even better, we want history to repeat. Because mankind is too fucking scared to try something new. But, on the other hand, is it mankind we are talking about? It is one country and one country alone that is on a constant rampage throughout the world. With as a consequence that we, not US people, can suffer all we want. I'm not sorry when I say that it is about damn time the US got a cookie of its' own dough. They're not far away from some internal turmoil, even a complete crash with civil war is a good possibility. That's where the cookie comes in and the US can start teaching different languages at schools.

    So, you can stop history repeating itself, by boycotting the only and main aggressor and, when "your" politician doesn't want to listen, well, let him or her feel it a little. War is too extreme to let it pass and slide, like all the other things. Belgium will be, for the third time, a battlefield for others. And the people, the Belgians? They seem to enjoy it, because no one is speaking out. They are busy being racist and counting money.

    • sashinator
      +5

      Because most of us have never been in a war, let alone seeing one start

      I've seen Balkan civil war start, NATO v Serbia start, Persian Gulf War, Afghanistan, Iraq war, Russia v Georgia, Syrian civil war, Russia v Ukraine, Saudi Arabia v Yemen

      • Maternitus (edited 1 year ago)
        +2

        From the media, yes, but not in your homecountry, I assume.

        Edit: if it is so, then I am sorry.

        • sashinator
          +3

          Alas it is so. Not to worry- I'm over it

    • tranxene
      +5

      So, you can stop history repeating itself, how? What are you/I truly doing to avoid this? Protesting, not voting the next time, refuse to pay your taxes, say your opinions on the Internet? And I'm not ashamed to say that I like to count my money, who does?

      • Maternitus (edited 1 year ago)
        +4

        Not falling for the attempts to divide people is the first thing that comes to mind. Politicians and warmongers thrive on that, it is the very reason they excist. How would I do that? By not not believing a word that comes from their mouths. Not even a syllable. And disprove all the claims those hateful people make, but also proof that "the other side" also thrives on the exact same division: it gives the opportunity to the opposite. That way it gives them a reason to excist also. From a politician's point of view there is a big need for all of this.

        With demonstrations you won't get far, so it seems. How long were the strikes in France? They stopped right after the drama in Nice, wasn't it? And the attacks in Paris? Comes in pretty handy, not even two weeks before a big climateconference where they'd expect tens of thousands of protestors (and rioters). I am not saying the attacks are related to other events, not at all, but it gave politicians the opportunity to silence a big part of the people. Plus some very nice opportunities to blame whatever they did wrong themselves on everything else but themselves.

        Ahh, yeah. Counting money. :-)

        • leweb
          +5

          That's what I keep repeating, division breeds autocrats and war. I did not see the start of WWII, but I lived the start of the Venezuelan disaster, and it all looks exactly the same. It's like people just don't get it. As long as we keep arguing with each other, the shadow of dictatorship and war keeps growing.

        • tranxene
          +5

          Divide and conquer... we're too busy with that, so we will never have the time/energy to fight the establishment.

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