• AdelleChattre
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    @Appaloosa -

    You too?)

  • Appaloosa (edited 6 years ago)
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    @AdelleChattre -

    Yes, it's both science and philosophy to me. If you put a ringing alarm clock into a vacuum, sound no longer exists as the medium does not support it. The clock is doing everything mechanical to produce a sound, yet it does not exist. But, if a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound if nothing is around to observe it. The tree would be in a medium, air, to support a sound, unlike a bell in a vacuum.

  • leweb
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    @Appaloosa -

    This is nice, but still not quite the same thing. Alarm clocks, vacuum, trees in forests, they're all macroscopic objects that have a well defined internal state. The weird thing about QM is that there are no specific, well defined internal states, except when defined by observation. There's nothing like it in our normal, everyday (or even not so every day) experience. That's the reason for the oft-cited quote about understanding QM attributed to Richard Feynman.

    • AdelleChattre (edited 6 years ago)
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      @Appaloosa -

      Physics is philosophy. Science is all philosophy of nature, right? The 'Ph' in /u/leweb's Ph.D stands for philosophy. Agreed, the tree falling in the forest makes sound, even if nobody's around to hear it. Never understood why it was supposed to be so trippy that nobody hears it. Quantum physics, on the other hand, baffles me. I think it's supposed to. They say if you think you 'get it' then think again, because nobody does. Nobody can. I'm right there with you about the "sound of one hand clapping" woo woo, but this stuff is spooky. For real.