I strongly disagree. I think the criticism she is receiving is well deserved. The issue wasn't with simply banning FPH, it was that other, significantly worse subs weren't banned. As a woman of color, I would think that you would be much more concerned with subs like: /r/CoonTown/, /r/Beatings/, /r/punchable_children/, /r/punchablefaces/, /r/TheRedPill/, /r/Beastiality/, or /r/spacedicks/ (among many more). If you're going to ban something, make sure you ACTUALLY ban it, don't just cherry pick to suit your own personal agenda. And in regards to the Victoria issue - the "black out" wasn't to show solidarity with her, it was primarily to protest the lack of communication between admins and mods, along with other, more sub-specific issues.
I've seen the generic racist and misogynistic comments towards her in Reddit threads, but it's hardly shocking when you look at who is upset (see the above list for reference). I've also read a lot of constructive and well justified arguments against her (in fact, that's all I've seen on Snapzu so far). If you're going to be offended by Reddit, there is a LOT more out there to be offended by... And if you want an example of the internet tearing apart a CEO for poor business practices who isn't a woman or visible minority, look up Steve Ballmer.
I just made a post about what I was trying to say. It's not even about Ellen Pao necessarily. I can't reply to all the responses here individually so posting it here; some of you might wanna check it out.
I don't know much about the other subreddits you mentioned, but /r/watchpeopledie doesn't seem like it fits with them if they're of the hateful, exploitative variety. Graphic, gruesome, and horrifying content is posted in /r/watchpeopledie for sure, but its community generally isn't about glorifying or promoting violent death like it's a good thing (granted no one's all that bothered when an ISIS member gets killed). More often than not the comments have to do with the context of a given death or deaths (i.e. where, when, how, and why), where not to go/what not to do, how scary and/or messed up it would be to die and/or be killed in a certain way, and how fragile life is, not "hahahahahaha die motherfucker die!!!".
I thought about your comment, and you're right. It doesn't fit with the others. So I edited it out and replaced it with /r/punchablefaces.
I find it odd how OP is upset about the hate towards Ellen Pao, and yet supports the banning of FPH while so many more systematically oppressive subreddits were simply ignored. I would think that she would be upset that so, so, so many other, significantly more offensive subs still exist, while one that doesn't even target an oppressed minority was removed.
It's also worth mentioning that I have noticed maybe one slur-driven insult to every 20 or so justified criticisms, and I believe those insults are just people who are too lazy or uneducated to make a relevant comment (or maybe it's just the websites I frequent). But when we do come across it, the options are 1) ignore them, 2) educate them, or 3) get upset and feed their anger.
**I feel like I should note that I am neither supportive nor against the FPH subreddit - I wasn't subscribed to that sub, and I never went to /r/all so it literally doesn't affect me in any way. I do, however, oppose the CEO twisting and molding a community driven website to fit her own agenda, while at the same time treating the most active members of said community like an afterthought.
Yeah, /r/watchpeopledie isn't about hate or 'justice' or anything, it's morbid curiosity. It's for the people who ask 'What does a person look like after they get shot?'.
I strongly disagree. I think the criticism she is receiving is well deserved. The issue wasn't with simply banning FPH, it was that other, significantly worse subs weren't banned. As a woman of color, I would think that you would be much more concerned with subs like: /r/CoonTown/, /r/Beatings/, /r/punchable_children/, /r/punchablefaces/, /r/TheRedPill/, /r/Beastiality/, or /r/spacedicks/ (among many more). If you're going to ban something, make sure you ACTUALLY ban it, don't just cherry pick to suit your own personal agenda. And in regards to the Victoria issue - the "black out" wasn't to show solidarity with her, it was primarily to protest the lack of communication between admins and mods, along with other, more sub-specific issues.
I've seen the generic racist and misogynistic comments towards her in Reddit threads, but it's hardly shocking when you look at who is upset (see the above list for reference). I've also read a lot of constructive and well justified arguments against her (in fact, that's all I've seen on Snapzu so far). If you're going to be offended by Reddit, there is a LOT more out there to be offended by... And if you want an example of the internet tearing apart a CEO for poor business practices who isn't a woman or visible minority, look up Steve Ballmer.
I just made a post about what I was trying to say. It's not even about Ellen Pao necessarily. I can't reply to all the responses here individually so posting it here; some of you might wanna check it out.
I don't know much about the other subreddits you mentioned, but /r/watchpeopledie doesn't seem like it fits with them if they're of the hateful, exploitative variety. Graphic, gruesome, and horrifying content is posted in /r/watchpeopledie for sure, but its community generally isn't about glorifying or promoting violent death like it's a good thing (granted no one's all that bothered when an ISIS member gets killed). More often than not the comments have to do with the context of a given death or deaths (i.e. where, when, how, and why), where not to go/what not to do, how scary and/or messed up it would be to die and/or be killed in a certain way, and how fragile life is, not "hahahahahaha die motherfucker die!!!".
I thought about your comment, and you're right. It doesn't fit with the others. So I edited it out and replaced it with /r/punchablefaces.
I find it odd how OP is upset about the hate towards Ellen Pao, and yet supports the banning of FPH while so many more systematically oppressive subreddits were simply ignored. I would think that she would be upset that so, so, so many other, significantly more offensive subs still exist, while one that doesn't even target an oppressed minority was removed.
It's also worth mentioning that I have noticed maybe one slur-driven insult to every 20 or so justified criticisms, and I believe those insults are just people who are too lazy or uneducated to make a relevant comment (or maybe it's just the websites I frequent). But when we do come across it, the options are 1) ignore them, 2) educate them, or 3) get upset and feed their anger.
**I feel like I should note that I am neither supportive nor against the FPH subreddit - I wasn't subscribed to that sub, and I never went to /r/all so it literally doesn't affect me in any way. I do, however, oppose the CEO twisting and molding a community driven website to fit her own agenda, while at the same time treating the most active members of said community like an afterthought.
Yeah, /r/watchpeopledie isn't about hate or 'justice' or anything, it's morbid curiosity. It's for the people who ask 'What does a person look like after they get shot?'.