Heh, don't even get me started about trying to have this conversation with my parents. They have zero concept of how the hiring process works these days, especially in fast moving fields like software engineering. Oh, that's another thing that bothers me. Where did "Software Engineer" go? You don't see that title much anymore. Now it has been dramatically lessened to "Software Developer" and that distinction has been lost on so many. The word "engineer" has certain connotations to it that "developer" doesn't have. I suppose it is fitting considering the upside down nature we're talking about here. I suppose I am being too kind because this is something that has deeply irritated me as someone that has spent the majority of their life in academia and took on so much student loan debt to achieve my CS degree with the empty promise that there would be jobs lined up for me when I graduate. Boy, was that not the case. Ironically, the ubiquitous phrase in the field, "Garbage in, garbage out" couldn't be more accurate.