• shiranaihito (edited 9 years ago)
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    @usefulthings -

    I doubt you're being honest, but your Google is just as good as mine. Surely you see a difference between choosing and modifying?

  • usefulthings (edited 9 years ago)
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    @shiranaihito -

    First, it's rude to publicly call someone a liar. Especially when responding to a two sentence request for more information. This is the time to educate people, not be jerk.

    Second, I'm perfectly capable of using Google. In fact, when I typed in "gmo vs selective breeding" I saw the following in the top ten results:

    - Partisan article

    - Q&A with no scientific citation

    - Partisan article from PBS titled Harvest of Fear

    - Partisan article promoting a book titled Seeds of Deception

    - An article explaining the topic who includes in the first paragraph the statement "I'm not an expert."

    - Partisan article (from an organic farm)

    - Hey, a Q&A site with a peer-reviewed article! (behind a paywall)

    - A 2002 scientific article that may or may not be peer reviewed.

    I don't see anything from a peer-reviewed journal. Since, as I stated I'm uneducated on the topic of GMOs and selective breeding, I was hoping someone could provide some actual scientific insight. Since you're here, on a public forum, speaking out on the topic, I assumed that someone was you. So once again...

    I'm uneducated on the topic of GMOs and selective breeding. Can you point me to a scientific reference that defines the two terms? What processes are used to create GMOs? Is the grafting of plants a GMO? Does it involve irradiation to induce mutation? Are scientists injecting DNA from one organism into the cells of another? Are they cloning plants? If so, how?

    Edit: Oh look, @melanoleuca posted a good link (http://www.sciencemediacentre.co.nz/2008/09/19/genetic-modification-explained/) which actually contains references!

    • shiranaihito (edited 9 years ago)
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      @usefulthings -

      First, it's rude to publicly call someone a liar

      Good thing I didn't, then? :) I merely stated that I doubted you were being honest.

      It's dishonest to accuse people of things they haven't done (when you can see that they haven't)!

      I was hoping someone could provide some actual scientific insight. Since you're here, on a public forum, speaking out on the topic, I assumed that someone was you.

      Why would you make that assumption?

      Anyway, no one needs to be an expert to see that there's a difference between selective breeding and modifying genes, but the two are equated by pro-GMO articles, which shows that they're dishonest. That's enough for me. If it's not enough for you, I'm afraid I can't help you.

      http://www.sciencemediacentre.co.nz/2008/09/19/genetic-modification-explained/

      I've already addressed (parts of) that.