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in a real sense it's indefinable but some things certainly help. for you it may be the neck beards, dodgy personal hygeine, obsessive love for d4 and certainty mush is the greatest lp ever recorded. or an offshoot term from a shitty (in a good way) website, the constant pbr or the fact we're all jealous heisel 'made it'. i WILL find the common denominator or else i WILL jump off a building listening to the demo tracks on the double cd never ender. basically i'm gonna be posting punk rock for download.