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  • caelreth
    +10

    Is it just me, or is this reason to weep for the future?

    • frohawk
      +7

      At least reading/writing is becoming hip and cool again?

      • caelreth
        +9

        I agree that there is some value in that - but if the only way to get people interested in reading is that avenue, I still wince a little. Not that I'm some sort of literary snob - I mean, I mostly read sci-fi/fantasy. I guess that's the difference, though. Not everyone likes sci-fi/fantasy.

        • trendkill
          +7

          I'm torn because I like that people are reading, but I very strongly dislike the fact that this is what they're reading. It's poorly written and gives people a bad idea of what to expect from a relationship.

          But really, anything I have to say on the matter has been said a thousand times before in a thousand better ways.

          • flowerpunk
            +3

            I'm not convinced that such works will act as a gateway to more enlightening books.

    • Kysol
      +6

      Neil Gaiman said it best

      If ever you’re curious, go and look at the annual bestseller lists for years gone by. You’ll find a lot of books that sold an unbelievable number of copies when they were fashionable. I’m sure The Revolt of Mamie Stover also sold more books than Ray Bradbury will ever have sold in his whole life in its year. Have you read it? Heard of it? Off the top of my head, Peyton Place in its year, or The Gospel According to Peanuts, or The Ginger Man, or Jonathan Livingstone Seagull in their years undoubtedly outsold all of Ray Bradbury. But when their day is done, mostly those kind of books drift back into the void, and go, if not out of print, then back into a world where nobody quite knows why they sold that many copies any more. (Do you know who Gilbert Patten was? He sold about 500 million books in his lifetime…)

      Meanwhile, Ray Bradbury sold quite a lot of books in 1956, and quite a lot of books in 2006 (Fahrenheit 451 alone has sold over 5 million copies), and he found his readers for his books and his stories in every year. And I’ll wager a hundred years from now he’ll still be read…

      So, honestly, I wouldn’t fret, if I were you.

      Nothing’s changed. Some books are, often inexplicably, bestsellers. That’s been the way of it for a hundred and fifty years or more.

      Read the books you love, tell people about authors you like, and don’t worry about it.

      Source

      • caelreth
        +4

        Well, if Neil Gaiman said it... :) (In all seriousness, good point)

        • Kysol
          +3

          Full Disclosure... I am N.....ot Neil Gaiman, nor have I read anything of his. Yes yes, work at book store and this is probably drawing gasps from everyone here. I wouldn't say I'm a "Neil Gaiman fanboy", just I agree with what he says a bit too often.

          • caelreth
            +4

            No problem - I like Neil Gaiman and I have read some of his stuff :)

            • Kysol
              +3

              Suggested books? (heard Sandman was good if you classify graphic novels as books).

            • caelreth
              +4
              @Kysol -

              I think I would start with American Gods or maybe his collab with Terry Pratchett, Good Omens

    • Cheesemangeur
      +6

      It is :( But I am happy to see so many people criticise these books.

    • jcscher
      +6

      I think so !!!!

      • caelreth
        +6

        Nope - spaceghoti says I'm not alone. Whew!

    • spaceghoti
      +6

      It isn't just you.

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  • TheHat2 (edited 8 years ago)
    +4

    It's Twilight fan fiction that's virtually taking the same path as the Twilight series.

    - A trilogy.

    - A rewrite of the first novel from the male protagonist's point of view that had several chapters leaked before publication (though in the case of Midnight Sun, it remains unpublished).

    - A novella about a minor character from the third novel in the trilogy (I presume this will be the next in line for the Fifty Shades series).

  • picklefingers
    +4

    I just don't get the craze around the book. I'm not one to hate books just because they are popular. However, I've read through some of the book. It is terribly written. As in, I've known middle schooler kids who can write a better novel. I just couldn't go any farther because I felt like I was reading some subpar tumblr post.

    • Anthaller
      +3

      That's it, if we can all just agree that people are reading it for the kinky sex then I'm fine with it's popularity. Problem is, I don't want people thinking that this book series is an example of good writing.

  • thedon
    +4

    I haven't read much of 50 Shades but wasn't Grey's "mysterious" personality one of the most attractive for the people who like it? Isn't writing this book basically destroying the greatest selling-point of her past work?

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