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  • massani
    +7

    Goes to show how disparate the Republican party has become. I mean, when you have a pool of what, 16 candidates, then that definitely shows how unconnected the Republicans are. Trump is the most vocal, known, and probably backed by a lot of bigwigs in Wall Street. I'm not surprised that he is in first running, but I'm also curious to see who will end up getting nominated.

    • fanficmistress
      +6

      We will see what actually plays out. He is the most vocal and I think that is helping him right now but I agree with the article that he probably will not win the nomination.

      Despite his momentum, most Republicans do not see Trump actually winning the GOP Republican nomination next year — 31% expect Bush to be the nominee, while 22% believe Trump will be. Another 14% predict a Walker nomination

      • massani
        +4

        I'm not that educated on Bush, I think he is the most level-headed of Republicans? If he does get the nomination over Trump then I think it will be a very interesting race.

        • joethebob
          +8

          Bush will present whatever face is most likely to get him elected. He very much stands in the company of classic neo-conservative associates, advisers, campaign managers and potential cabinet members.

          • fanficmistress
            +4

            He is very much the classic Republican plus comes from a name known for their politics. I think he would have the best shot of winning in a general election which is who they will give the nomination to.

          • ElGuzano (edited 3 years ago)
            +3

            And his entire foreign policy team is from his brother's administration, with a couple extras from his dad's and Reagan's thrown in. That tells me all I need to know about what kind of mess he will make if he wins the white house.

        • wolfpup
          +5

          Considering the nature of the Republican field, level-headed is a fairly relative term. Bush still wants to get rid of Medicare, supports increasing the retirement age, doesn't believe scientists when it comes to climate change, etc. One thing he really has going for him, though, is his $100 million Super PAC. It'll be really interesting to see all the Republican PACs battle it out in the coming months.

  • MAGISTERLUDI (edited 3 years ago)
    +6

    "The polls were conducted July 14-21 — so before and after Trump’s controversial comments belittling John McCain’s war record on July 18. And they suggest the comments didn’t affect Trump in Iowa (he was at 16% before the comments and 18% after), but they did hurt him in New Hampshire (26% before, 14% after).". This from CNN 2008:John McCain Is No "Hero POW"

  • alizure
    +4

    Good greif I thought that Trump running for president was a joke. Guess not.

  • ColonBowel
    +4

    Trump is serving as a

    1) distraction to allow the other Republican candidates pull some shady stuff

    2) Appearing like a crazy ass. Then, the sane Republican will come in. The public will compromise between the Clinton and Trump, and go with Bush.

    It's no mistake that Ted Cruz and Trump were up front leading the jackass charge.

  • OldTallGuy (edited 3 years ago)
    +4

    I think name recognition has a lot to do with his poll numbers now, most people don't know much about 14 of the other candidates plus there seems t be an anti-Bush sentiment too. Most people I've talked to are not happy with the prospects of either Bush or Clinton being their party's nominee. The primaries are still 6 months in the future, I expect someone besides Trump will emerge as the front runner before then.

  • Urbanknight4
    +3

    I thought only five or six dudes (and Clinton) were running for president. Why the hell are there 21 people running?? This isn't a beauty pageant or something, you can't have half the world running. Only the most elite politicians are supposed to do this. Can someone explain the gits running?

    • Dernhelm (edited 3 years ago)
      +4

      I think that anyone can run. The may reason I think that all these people are choosing to run is to get their names out there so that in the future they can run for a higher office. The other reason is even if they cannot make it far enough to get president they will have the poll numbers to show that they can be a great VP candidate.

      • ToixStory
        +2

        That's what I've always heard. A lot of people will run who have no chance of winning, but it might boost their chances of keeping whatever office they already have, get new voters, get longtime supporters, and make them a possible candidate in later elections. Politics is complicated because the people who "lose" the candidacy will likely come away as better off than if they had not run at all.

        • Urbanknight4
          +4

          Except Trump. If he loses this race, he's gonna be bailing water from a sinking ship. The business side of things with him never were kosher, but now that he took a dump on them intentionally, he's gonna have to pull a hat trick to make them profitable again.

          • ColdwaterQ
            +3

            To be fair, doesn't he declares bankruptcy quite often.

            • Urbanknight4
              +2

              If he does, then that just shows how terrible he is at being rich.

            • ColdwaterQ
              +3
              @Urbanknight4 -

              So I just looked and it appears that he has not declared bankruptcy, but he has had four businesses declare bankruptcy. Which is probably worse because that means he pays himself so he always has money but drives the things he leads into the ground some times. That is not something I want my president to do.

            • Urbanknight4 (edited 3 years ago)
              +3
              @ColdwaterQ -

              It's a pity he's leading... I don't want most of the 21 dudes to win.

  • frohawk
    +3

    They really must be scraping the bottom of the barrel.

  • Hydrax
    +3

    I remember seeing an interview (on CNN I think) where he says that "I cannot be bought because I'm already a billionaire." And it just pisses me off that people buy that bullshit. He has funded presidential candidates before and has used them to try and fulfill his agenda. By running for president he's just doing it directly instead. There's no difference whatsoever, if anything it's even worse. Makes me so angry.

  • mrmulder
    +3

    This is really good news. He is an easy target with lots of baggage if he becomes the nominee. Shouldn't be that difficult to beat such a controversial figure.

  • wolfpup
    +2

    August 6th can't come fast enough!

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