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  • capoti
    +9

    WTF Wired has a paywall now? Since when?

    • aj0690
      +9

      No clue. But I got 2 free articles remaining lol

      • StarFlower
        +7

        That's more info than I got! It told me I had used up half of my remaining free articles, but nowhere did it tell me how many half actually was.

  • AdelleChattre
    +8

    This isn't a Facecrook beat sweetener, it's a press release from the Zuckerborg. The worst thing is, I bet Wired was overjoyed to run it, not even driving any sort of bargain."Thank you very much, Mr Zuckerberg. Would you like to pair a Sauternes with your vapid media whitewash, per usual, sir?"

  • 3rdWheel (edited 4 months ago)
    +5

    It stopped being profitable so they stopped doing it.

    These posts no longer accurately reflect my views toward Facebook.

    • AdelleChattre
      +9

      Well, that understates the degree to which PrimaFacieBook was caught out for their blatant racketeering in countries with functioning legal systems. How many billions of people have take judicial notice of FaceBorg's usurious, privacy-violating, insecure-by-design, panopticon before abject puff pieces like this stop coming?

      • 3rdWheel (edited 4 months ago)
        +4

        An infinite number if no alternative is found. Unfortunately, Facebook is really it when it comes to social media. No other website has the features and connectivity Facebook does.

        These posts no longer accurately reflect my views toward Facebook.

        • AdelleChattre
          +7

          Just because they can doesn't mean we should.

          • 3rdWheel (edited 4 months ago)
            +1

            Again, what alternative is there? If you want to keep in touch with friends, if you’re starting a business, if you want to find local events and communities, if you’re a content creator trying to take off, if you’re planning a big event that involves a lot of people, if you’re trying to find a lost person or pet, what is there besides Facebook?

            Deleting your account is such a shortsighted solution to a long term problem. You have no more Facebook; now what? You haven’t retaken your independence, you’ve just cut yourself off from how the world works. Your friends will not update you on everything they’ve done even if you keep in touch. You will not be invited to gatherings. Customers will not care enough to visit your website nor will they contact you. Yes, you will feel more free and your data will probably be safer, but again, that will only apply to you, so what use is it?

            Deleting your account solves nothing, it only tells the world “I’m burying my head in the sand until the problem is over.”

            These posts no longer accurately reflect my views toward Facebook.

            • StarFlower
              +9

              I live a happy and fulfilled life with never having been on Facebook. I get invitations to parties and things the normal way: text messages, email invitations or mailed invitations (the latter being rarer). I volunteer at the local school and at my church. I talk in real life to my neighbors. I catch up with friends over coffee or lunch when we can. People who are too far away, we communicate via email (some of these via group email if there's a bunch of us in a convo). Events and things in my area are usually covered well by the local papers etc (even though I do not get the local paper, I can look up the online version of the paper to keep up to date with what's going on). I don't for a minute feel cut off from how the world works - if anything, I feel connected with the people in my local community and to friends and family further afield.

            • 3rdWheel (edited 4 months ago)
              +3
              @StarFlower -

              You are the statistical outlier and are lucky enough to live in a dense, populated area that you have access to those things, and having a church to volunteer at is already a community that expects you to embed yourself into. Given how fewer people are belonging to something like a church, that is not a common thing.

              These posts no longer accurately reflect my views toward Facebook.

            • AdelleChattre (edited 4 months ago)
              +6

              Again, what alternative is there?

              Don't panic. You may be confusing Facebook with the internet, society around you and objective reality itself. Remember to breathe.

              If you want to keep in touch with friends

              Do you have friends that know better than to use Fakebook? If not, maybe examine where that sampling bias comes from.

              if you’re starting a business

              Now FaceCrook is a chokepoint on the path to success in business? That's not reducing grave concerns about the outfit already in play.

              if you want to find local events and communities

              Be real. The last time you really felt alive, was it while you were checking Faceborg?

              if you’re a content creator trying to take off

              By the same token that by using bath salts, as your peers will tell you, you'll seem older, cooler, and fit in better.

              if you’re planning a big event that involves a lot of people

              Would've thought the people would be a bigger preliminary for this than ZuckBook. Maybe this is underneath some of this confuision.

              if you’re trying to find a lost person or pet, what is there besides Facebook?

              Calling for them? Pounding the pavement? Flyers, posters? NextDoor? FidoAlert? PetHarbor? HomeAgain? Local veterinarians, animal shelters and humane societies? ZabaSearch?

              Deleting your account is such a shortsighted solution to a long term problem.

              Objection. Assumes willingly-joined account not in evidence.

              You have no more Facebook; now what?

              I seem to be able to get through an average day without CompuServe or MySpace, so I'd imagine it'd be something like that.

              You haven’t retaken your independence, you’ve just cut yourself off from how the world works.

              I know you're acting as an ambassador for Modernity, but to my mind this notion strikes me as servile. If I've got the moral clarity not to be a party to wrongdoing, that's not me stepping outside spacetime to take a breather. If I don't take a loan from a loanshark, is that me teleporting to the Phantom Zone?

              Your friends will not update you on everything they’ve done even if you keep in touch.

              Wait, do we still get old and die, too?

              You will not be invited to gatherings.

              Not via Facebook, because I radically object to Facebook as a terrible idea, and I will neither support it nor become dependent on it as have others. There're still parties. Good parties.

              Customers will not care enough to visit your website nor will they contact you.

              This is supplication before a master or a king, not enthusiasm on your part.

              Yes, you will feel more free and your data will probably be safer, but again, that will only apply to you, so what use is it?

              TIL freedom and safety are measured by what use they are on FaceSpook.

              Deleting your account solves nothing, it only tells the world “I’m burying my head in the sand until the problem is over.”

              This from someone that thinks Facebook deletes jack shit.

              My suggestion is that you get off FaceTook, a little at first, then as you have your successes a bit more, and more. If you're going to argue it's all that indispensable, you owe it to yourself to dispense with it some just to see if it might be possible. You might be cheating yourself.

            • 3rdWheel (edited 4 months ago)
              +4
              @AdelleChattre -

              You wrote all that to give me one alternative to Facebook. I get it, you hate the website, but it just works for the majority of the world. My job literally requires me to be on Facebook, so if by “cheating myself”you mean “part of the responsibilities that earns me a paycheck,” then I guess I have to continue to cheat myself.

              But that’s my entire point that I believe you’re intentionally ignoring. If you want to be a part of social media, you have to be a part of Facebook. And that sucks that there no other platform to combat it, because there’s a dire need for a social media platform that isn’t as problematic.

              These posts no longer accurately reflect my views toward Facebook.

            • AdelleChattre
              +4
              @3rdWheel -

              You wrote all that to give me one alternative to Facebook.

              No, I pointed out Facebook is not the air you breathe. If you want Diet Cherry Vanilla Facebook, take that up with Facebook.

              I get it, you hate the website

              No, I don't think you're getting it. Facebook is wrong. That's not me with reservations about UI choices.

              My job literally requires me to be on Facebook

              We all do things we're not proud of from time to time.

              If you want to be a part of social media, you have to be a part of Facebook.

              Yes, the same way if you want to go on breathing you must huff only Beelzebub™-brand sulphur and brimstone.

            • 3rdWheel (edited 4 months ago)
              +4
              @AdelleChattre -

              You’re killing this conversation because you’re just posting snarky responses now. I guess you won’t see my viewpoint, so this is where we go our separate ways. Sorry I’m just a single minded sheep.

              These posts no longer accurately reflect my views toward Facebook.

            • AdelleChattre
              +7
              @3rdWheel -

              Oh, thank goddesses! It's so hard to carry on a conversation when someone has something on their teeth. Good luck with all that!

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