Yeah, they really need to outline what their concrete goal and model is in their current form. It was okay to be for free speech and not have many written rules near the beginning, but as they grew, they really needed to clarify a lot of things. Time will tell if they can institute one.
Free speech or at least free discussion can be a goal, you just have to choose that goal rather than saying "I want free wheeling free speech AND corporate sponsers AND deep discussion AND no harrassment AND to be the default page of the internet". If you choose free wheeling free speech (which is what Reddit originally did) then trying to do that while creating a hugbox and a place where large companies are supposed to want to be associated with, you're essentially pulling in two opposite directions, and you're going to fail at one of them. It might also be hard to get sponsors is your content skews too weird (do you think famous people want to be associated with people who talk seriously about david icke's lizard people?), or too controversial (for example if there's a lot of socialist communist business hate on there, you think Economist is gonna buy ad space?)
Snapzu, while being a place that doesn't ban discussion, is a place that seems to value friendlyness over freeze peach. We had people try to make /t/fatpeoplehate here, and the only post in the tribe is a LOTR meme saying that it won't fly here. I havent seen a lot of "weird" here either, but it might exist. That's what Snapzu is going for, and so long as it stays true to that vision, rather than going toward the /b/ trolling culture or conspiracy or racism side of the internet, they'll have users.
An unfortunate problem that a business like reddit was bound to overlook. You get more payout when your investors are everyone. They started with trying to appeal to everyone, then underneath that tried to appeal to individual groups. You simply can't do that. There's valor in accepting that a certain type of person is your demographic and not trying to overreach.
Snapzu, while being a place that doesn't ban discussion, is a place that seems to value friendlyness over freeze peach. We had people try to make /t/fatpeoplehate here, and the only post in the tribe is a LOTR meme saying that it won't fly here.
Its easy to make these determinations when the topic is a community like FPH. But what happens when the decisions are not so clearcut? That's where sites struggle as they grow in popularity. It's not the FPH communities that start the problem, it will be things like religious tribes vs atheist tribes. Or liberal tribes vs conservative tribes. Or even console gaming tribes vs pc gaming tribes.
Yeah, they really need to outline what their concrete goal and model is in their current form. It was okay to be for free speech and not have many written rules near the beginning, but as they grew, they really needed to clarify a lot of things. Time will tell if they can institute one.
Free speech or at least free discussion can be a goal, you just have to choose that goal rather than saying "I want free wheeling free speech AND corporate sponsers AND deep discussion AND no harrassment AND to be the default page of the internet". If you choose free wheeling free speech (which is what Reddit originally did) then trying to do that while creating a hugbox and a place where large companies are supposed to want to be associated with, you're essentially pulling in two opposite directions, and you're going to fail at one of them. It might also be hard to get sponsors is your content skews too weird (do you think famous people want to be associated with people who talk seriously about david icke's lizard people?), or too controversial (for example if there's a lot of socialist communist business hate on there, you think Economist is gonna buy ad space?)
Snapzu, while being a place that doesn't ban discussion, is a place that seems to value friendlyness over freeze peach. We had people try to make /t/fatpeoplehate here, and the only post in the tribe is a LOTR meme saying that it won't fly here. I havent seen a lot of "weird" here either, but it might exist. That's what Snapzu is going for, and so long as it stays true to that vision, rather than going toward the /b/ trolling culture or conspiracy or racism side of the internet, they'll have users.
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Its easy to make these determinations when the topic is a community like FPH. But what happens when the decisions are not so clearcut? That's where sites struggle as they grow in popularity. It's not the FPH communities that start the problem, it will be things like religious tribes vs atheist tribes. Or liberal tribes vs conservative tribes. Or even console gaming tribes vs pc gaming tribes.