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Published 9 years ago by UnicornCommando with 9 Comments

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  • Wenjarich
    +4

    You know, o e great way to help with making a device that doesn't get hacked, is not telling the world it is intended to not get hacked. When people say "this can't be hacked" I imagine a bunch of 5 year olds being told they aren't allowed to take a cookie from the jar. No better way to ensure they'll try than to draw attention to it.

    • Naaaaaarrg
      +2

      Not a bad strategy if used appropriately. Get the attention of hackers/crackers so they find all the vulnerabilities and then plug them until they cant do it any more.

      • Wenjarich
        +2

        Unless the hacking occurs while in the use of clients and then there's a media outbreak of, they promised. ...but...

        Also as an engineer it always grates me when someone says a product is unbreakable. Nothing man made is unbreakable because every material has a breaking point. It may be a lot more sturdy than competition but its not unbreakable. I know it's better marketing and I'm nit picking but it just bothers me for some reason.

        • Naaaaaarrg
          +2

          Well yes, there is that haha.
          Completely understandable. I'm also incredibly sceptical of products that promise absolutes.

  • idlethreat
    +3

    ...The phone is also extraordinarily waterproof, thanks to a nano-coating on the internals...

    An actual secure device would have all components encased in potting epoxy with a dedicated, unchangeable SIM assigned at the factory. HSM's are built to be difficult to crack, as well as impossible to physically intrude on (if you pull the epoxy, the crypto chip self-destructs.

    Likewise, if you're going to yell 'we're secure!' the last thing you want to do is install Android on it. You have a purpose-built OS. Bonus points if the OS is built to a high EAL.

    There's really no secure phone out there. They all have bugs and problems. The closest thing you can physically pick up and use today would have to be Blackberry. They have superb phone hardware, and fast and well-designed OS, runs Android applications in secure memory, and has dedicated secure hardware built into the motherboard.

    Turing phone might be a lot of things, but it's not secure.

  • kimkam120
    +2

    No USB port (proprietary port instead)

    No Headphone jack

    His own crypto-currency built in that he "hopes will catch on"

    $610

    ..Good luck trying to sell that thing LOL. The only people that would be interested in this are people that take "unhackable" as a challenge, and the small minority of even tech users that take privacy extremely seriously.

    • radixius
      +3

      This sounds incredibly inconvenient for a typical end-user.

      • kimkam120
        +2

        Exactly, even I wouldn't buy something without a headphone jack. The second you would tell someone it doesn't have a headphone jack they will jump ship asap.

        • radixius
          +3

          Hell, I won't buy anything without expandable memory. The real dealbreaker for me is the lack of USB, headphone jacks I can get around with Bluetooth accessories, which I'm sure this thing also lacks capability for.

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