Same here. I've slapped Linux distros onto hapless computers for almost sixteen years.
As you noted.they also price gouge up one side and down the other, and have taken the term "walled garden" to further heights than Windows could ever dream of. I have an IPhone and the only reason I have it is it was a gift. I only use it as a phone,since I have Linux Mint on this lappy and UbuntuMATE on my tower.
I also have an Androud tablet,which also lives to micromanage it's users. I just wish there was a way to get a Linux distro on it,but the good folks at Linux Internationals have said that won't happen.
It's sad tjat the fanbois of Apple and Microsoft have no clue how little control they have over their own OS's,but then again,most people don't even think in those terms and just think:"OoOOHhh, shiny!!!"
Just wait till these two companies start monthly fees to even go on line...Now that will be interesting to watch.
Those fanbois haven't read the users end agreement very well, because it is not some certificate of ownership, but an agreement/permission to use the software on that piece of hardware. Both OS's are in fact leased to you and stay property of Apple or Microsoft, which renders any consumer right about the software insignificant. Their argument is simple: you agreed on our terms and they state that you, the end user, are under our control and we do whatever the hell we want with our property. Thing is: that's a fact since the inception of their users end agreements and go back many, many years.
You have a strong point on the paying to go online idea. It's already here, in a way, except for the paying part. Without being online it is damn hard to install, update or upgrade the OS's. Also: to do that, you need an account with those companies. Lots of users do not even care about that, they simply do it, because that's easy. And with my experience on helping people with their computers, they can't even give one damn reason why such a dick-move is even close to fair from the perspective of the user. Besides it being convenient, that is.
Things change as soon as they see on their hardware an OS running that doesn't do that and that doesn't send tonnes of telemetry and other data towards servers they can't have access to or even something close to an insight on what's being used or taken. When they see the difference in ease of use, privacy and actual ownership of software, those dear people still need time to recover from the years of being fooled in front of their eyes or even conceptualise what choice and ownership is.
I think that's so sad and hearing people even defend the ways they are used and abused, just for profit, shows how indoctrinated and propagandised they are. Spreading Linux, FreeBSD and all other open source software sometimes feels like an uphill battle, but one laptop or desktop at a time it will grow. And the more people understand the ways they are screwed over, the more people will leave those asshole companies behind. And the sad fact about it is that it's not just with OS's or other software, it's the same screw-overs in other parts of life also. Bank accounts, rent, buying food, borrowing, voting, education, just to name a few, are just as mindblowingly set up to screw people over in ways they can't imagine.
This is so true..What's even more pathetic about your observation,is so many people do not even know,much less care that they are being screwed over.
Once an OS is on my box,I see it as mine.
No one micromanages me,no one forces me to use a certain browser and no one has the right to keep my ad blocker or anything else disabled.
I don't come into your home,slap a Linux distro,or Free BSD on your computer,then do all thee other stuff I want and don't allow you to change it..But somehow,Apple,Google and Microsoft feel they have the right to do this to me.
Ummm,nope.
I saved a shitload of money by never using Apple products. Ever.
Same here. I've slapped Linux distros onto hapless computers for almost sixteen years. As you noted.they also price gouge up one side and down the other, and have taken the term "walled garden" to further heights than Windows could ever dream of. I have an IPhone and the only reason I have it is it was a gift. I only use it as a phone,since I have Linux Mint on this lappy and UbuntuMATE on my tower.
I also have an Androud tablet,which also lives to micromanage it's users. I just wish there was a way to get a Linux distro on it,but the good folks at Linux Internationals have said that won't happen.
It's sad tjat the fanbois of Apple and Microsoft have no clue how little control they have over their own OS's,but then again,most people don't even think in those terms and just think:"OoOOHhh, shiny!!!"
Just wait till these two companies start monthly fees to even go on line...Now that will be interesting to watch.
Those fanbois haven't read the users end agreement very well, because it is not some certificate of ownership, but an agreement/permission to use the software on that piece of hardware. Both OS's are in fact leased to you and stay property of Apple or Microsoft, which renders any consumer right about the software insignificant. Their argument is simple: you agreed on our terms and they state that you, the end user, are under our control and we do whatever the hell we want with our property. Thing is: that's a fact since the inception of their users end agreements and go back many, many years.
You have a strong point on the paying to go online idea. It's already here, in a way, except for the paying part. Without being online it is damn hard to install, update or upgrade the OS's. Also: to do that, you need an account with those companies. Lots of users do not even care about that, they simply do it, because that's easy. And with my experience on helping people with their computers, they can't even give one damn reason why such a dick-move is even close to fair from the perspective of the user. Besides it being convenient, that is.
Things change as soon as they see on their hardware an OS running that doesn't do that and that doesn't send tonnes of telemetry and other data towards servers they can't have access to or even something close to an insight on what's being used or taken. When they see the difference in ease of use, privacy and actual ownership of software, those dear people still need time to recover from the years of being fooled in front of their eyes or even conceptualise what choice and ownership is.
I think that's so sad and hearing people even defend the ways they are used and abused, just for profit, shows how indoctrinated and propagandised they are. Spreading Linux, FreeBSD and all other open source software sometimes feels like an uphill battle, but one laptop or desktop at a time it will grow. And the more people understand the ways they are screwed over, the more people will leave those asshole companies behind. And the sad fact about it is that it's not just with OS's or other software, it's the same screw-overs in other parts of life also. Bank accounts, rent, buying food, borrowing, voting, education, just to name a few, are just as mindblowingly set up to screw people over in ways they can't imagine.
This is so true..What's even more pathetic about your observation,is so many people do not even know,much less care that they are being screwed over. Once an OS is on my box,I see it as mine. No one micromanages me,no one forces me to use a certain browser and no one has the right to keep my ad blocker or anything else disabled. I don't come into your home,slap a Linux distro,or Free BSD on your computer,then do all thee other stuff I want and don't allow you to change it..But somehow,Apple,Google and Microsoft feel they have the right to do this to me. Ummm,nope.