• ohtwenty
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    It's the inescapable Gypsy curse of 'security' reporting like this, its stock in trade is fear. Fear is what draws its attention to a subject like this, and fear is what it uses to keep your attention. Ultimately it often may not make any more sense, either.

    That's an incredible point, imo. I mean, media in its current form greatly benefits from added fear, as their most meaningful measurement for 'success' is how many clicks they get. Fear is one of the things most successful in that area. Like his point in the video you linked: twitter groups by white nationalists have grown since 2012 by 600%. Active twitter users have pretty much doubled in that same amount of time, but what's more, the Daily Stormer didn't even exist then! (let alone the fact that report after report finds out just how many bots are used on twitter to boost numbers & retweets, so this is fairly meaningless as far as utility for measuring political thought). As for

    Their persecution fantasies double as their excuse for persecuting others. If there is some 'conversation' that has belittled them, rather than oh say for instance they're angry insecure and troubled, I'd be curious what that is. Because if it's women and people to the political left of literally Hitler, that's nonsense. Talk about a culture of victimhood, eesh.

    I'm not entirely sure how to reconcile that train of thought, which I think is spot-on, with another post you made, in which they show that for quite some people it might just be about finding a group, no matter how twisted the thoughts of those members.

    Besides that his argument in the video is, like you said, about decreasing anonymity in order to decrease hate. Which is a bit silly. "They grew in the shadows for years" as if the FBI isn't on top of pretty much any 4chan/8ch thread that slightly veers into dangerous territory. I mean the technology already exists, and having conversations out in the open at least allows you to follow what's happening. The Charlottesville riots were discussed openly. If things like this were cracked down upon I think they would just move to private IRC channels, to telegram groups (if those are actually secure, no one knows), and be completely out of sight. But the end effect might still be the same. I don't know, because on top of conflicting thoughts this is also happening in another country, so I'm sure I'm missing a tad of context.