• RoamingGnome
    +4

    He is absolutely a part of the entrenched political establishment. He has admitted to paying-off politicians for favors, AND we know for a fact that he paid that Florida prosecutor to drop the Trump U case, or whichever of the thousands of lawsuits in which he is involved, it's hard to keep track. The point being that he is the establishment and to claim otherwise is a lie.

    Beyond that, voting in more of the people who made these "security" laws, Republicans, is beyond fucking stupid if you want to move away from that type of government.

    I just don't know. I'm baffled. I've always known that the average person was an idiot, but this goes way beyond that.

    • AdelleChattre (edited 7 years ago)
      +2

      Atticus Finch, beloved American, figment of Harper Lee’s imagination and impossibly idealized father figure, tells us:

      You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view . . . until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

      Of course Drumpf is part of the whole decaying mass of the establishment. It’s as obvious as his mob ties, his manifest personality disorders, and his loathing for his fellow human beings. However, this line of thinking is harshing our buzz. So let’s try on our Appaloosa suits. Sure, he’s part of the establishment, but that’s not the same as being part of The Establishment. In the same way the West Coast is part of the country, but it’s not quite exactly the same country as the East Coast. You’ll have no problem recognizing that’s he’s a shock to the system, so it’s not too far a stretch to begin to perceive the ways he’s a wrench that’s been thrown into The Machine.

      If Romney’d been elected, there can be little doubt his administration would’ve had American troops in Iran within a year. Maybe two. Once he’d been beaten by Team Obama, that whole hypothetical future fell away. You and I don’t need to compare notes on the Obama years to know he was more like Romney than not, but on at least that one thing there was a difference. Similarly, the election of this ridiculous homunculus means in this alternate timeline, the U.S. will probably not find itself in combat with Russian and Chinese troops before the next. He may be establishment, but not that Establishment. That’s, unless I’m much mistaken, the kind of distinction that Appaloosa’s on about.

      It’s still a dystopian nightmare, it’s just more of a choose-your-own-adventure than it seemed a few weeks ago.

      • Appaloosa (edited 7 years ago)
        +3

        Some people have a tough time reading between the lines. It would never cross through some minds that the Security apparatus has been run by a Democratic administration for the past 8 years, further enhancing and entrenching the first 8 years of a Republican security apparatus. I suppose the Clinton Dynasty would have ended all of that, but maybe not. Trump sure won't. I'd have to agree, we are all swimming in a sea of stupid.

        By the way, you made me think of the Steve Martin movie "All of me"

        • RoamingGnome
          +2

          Clinton would have changed nothing...at least not for the better. I've said t before and I'll say it again- I understand people not voting for Clinton. I also understand people voting for Trump. What I don't understand is people actually supporting either of them.

      • RoamingGnome
        +2

        homunculus...had to look it up.