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Published 3 months ago with 17 Comments

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  • Nelson
    +9

    To accept a pardon is to admit guilt and to waive 5th amendment protections when testifying about that crime. Good luck with that.

    • AdelleChattre (edited 3 months ago)
      +5

      To accept a pardon is to admit guilt

      In the eyes of the court, maybe. In every case, no.

  • kxh
    +7

    But, that's only for federal crimes. He can't pardon himself from state crimes, surely?

  • kxh
    +6

    The Watergate or Iran-Contra article is interesting but this seems more like the Starr investigation.

  • Chubros
    +6

    That statement alone should be grounds for impeachment.

  • rookshook
    +5

    I think we've crossed the red line. This is insane.

    • AdelleChattre (edited 3 months ago)
      +4

      Never've liked the expression about 'crossing a red line." For instance, what do you mean by this even in a figurative sense? You will now take some rash course of action that was unthinkable until this very moment? What does this mean other than as a rhetorical stand-in for sturm und drang? Maybe it's because I'd never heard the expression before it was used, for years, in the screechiest of tones to demand an immediate U.S. invasion of Syria on the side of Al Qaeda. Because staged gas attacks "crossed a red line."

      • rookshook
        +5

        I get ya. I'm just saying that this is not normal and we're in a strange place where we shouldn't be.

  • jerkyll
    +4

    Trump is spreading misinformation (bluffing) to convince his followers that if he is impeached, it'll be illegitimate.

    • AdelleChattre (edited 3 months ago)
      +6

      Tragic, isn't it, that list of particular crimes the president has committed seems to be taking so long to draw up? Trump's such a vapid, cheap grifter, you just know he's on his third felony by lunchtime. Why then does RussiaGhaziPalooza drag on, election cycle in and election cycle out, with no such crime named let alone proven? Sure, it wouldn't matter one whit if it were given the Republicans' solid hold on every branch of government, but still, I've got an inkling there may in point of fact be no evidence for Trump being Putin's master superspy. Say there was. Would that entire case take years to make and hinge entirely on catching the president in a perjury trap?

      • 3rdWheel
        +2

        The American Justice System operates on a time schedule not known to man.

        • AdelleChattre
          +8

          The mills of the Blob grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine.

  • aj0690
    +3

    Nixon and Clinton claimed they were innocent too, how did that turn out?

  • 66bnats
    +3

    Go ahead and try. Let's see what happens.

  • puntacanna
    +3

    Nothing to see here folks! Just Trump admitting to being guilty of breaking the law.

    • Nelson
      +5

      It's just him testing the waters AGAIN. And the GOP will turn a blind eye as always.

    • AdelleChattre
      +5

      I'll take "Citation Needed" for $200, Alex.

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