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Bill Cosby Admitted To Drugging Women (EDIT - the women referenced claim they knowingly accepted the drugged drinks) In 2005 Deposition
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Bill Cosby testified in 2005 that he got Quaaludes with the intent of giving them to young women he wanted to have sex with, and he admitted giving the sedative to at least one woman
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The headline doesn't match the content:
He gave them ludes. If that's drugging someone, then I've drugged dozens of people with pot, coke, xanax, X, acid, valium, alcohol... Saying he drugged someone implies they had no knowledge of what they were given. I don't know how this whole thing will play out, but that headline is click bait.
You're right that the title is click-bait-y (I've edited the title to address your point), but I suppose it establishes a proclivity for placing drugs in women's drinks for the purposes of having sex with them.
On a side point (as a new user), being able to edit snap titles is awesome.
Yeah, seeing this is pretty awesome. Being unable to fix an error can be so frustrating!
With the, err, rather important bit that he does it with women who are willing to take the drugs. I pour my wife a couple of glasses of wine on a romantic dinner -- that really doesn't mean that I'm luring teenage girls into a van with free beer. "Establishes a proclivity" is a terribly dangerous concept precisely because it can be so tenuous.
But giving your wife a couple of glasses of wine isn't quite the same as giving her a glass of wine with three half benadryl pills, which in turn isn't the same as luring teenagers into a beer-van. I can see both sides of an argument here. Sure, the fact that he did it to women with their knowledge does not necessarily mean he did it to women without their knowledge. Taken in the context of the larger allegations, I think it is important to note that he didn't testify that he hadn't given the pills to any women without their knowledge, he simply refused to cooperate when presented with that question.
Which is precisely my point. Giving a consenting and willing adult drugs does not "establish a procilivity" in any meaningful way towards using drugs on unsuspecting women to take sexual advantage of them. They are not "the same."
But you're not being accused of drugging and raping several women over a period of many years. I'd argue that while in most cases, a history of giving women drugged drinks when the women are consenting and aware of the drugs is a non-issue (EDIT - or a different issue, at least), but in the context of someone accused of doing this exact thing to women that weren't aware of it...that seems like it could be a potentially compelling argument.
Or so you assume... :) Although, for the record, I'm not. To the best of my knowledge.
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Gotta say, no one saw this coming.
What are you talking about? The first allegations surfaced more than ten years ago. The only possible way "nobody saw it coming" was that nobody wanted it to be true.
I'm talking about this whole situation.
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man, this plus the Louis CK stuff... ugh
What's the Louis CK stuff?
This was all I could find, and that site doesn't look all that reliable to me.
It seems like rumor at this point, but the fact that there's anyone out there doing this and his buddies have circled the wagons and talking about it would be career suicide is really sucky.
Wow that sucks, I didn't even know there was something going on with Louis. It's a shame that things like this happen, if they actually did happen.
Jen Kirkman did refute that she was talking about Louis shortly after this story broke out. She's apparently a big fan of his. The story hasn't spread very far, it's pure conjecture.
Still incredibly shitty that this kind of behavior exists at all, though.
This just shocked my world. At least there hasn't been conclusive evidence yet, right?
Uh wow, have to say I didn't expect the rumors to be true AT ALL
What a disgusting POS. I wish it wasn't true, but his general response to the accusations....whatever it was I felt like they were true. I'm surprised he ever admitted to the drugs.....and back in 2005 no less. This guy deserves to spend the rest of his miserable life in prison.
BRUH I THOUGHT THIS WAS FAKE
They kind of buried this in the article, and as the latter half of the sentence says, the woman's lawyer doubts that Cosby is being honest about the drug involved, but I've never heard of anyone taking Benadryl recreationally. On the other hand, if you wanted to put someone to sleep or lower their resistance, a pill and a half of Benadryl would sure do the trick. This seems like pretty damning testimony regardless of whether some of Cosby's accusers consented to take Ludes from him.
Recreational benadryl is a thing. Getting as far as typing "recreational diph" went ahead and autofilled with "enhydramine dose" in google, same deal for trying recreational benadryl. Anything psychoactive is going to find someone willing to use it. Honestly, benadryl's not infinitely far off from quaaludes, in that they're both powerful sedatives, so if you can stay awake through the hypnotic effect, you're going to have odd experiences.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=diphenhydramine
Well I'll be goddamned. The things people get high on these days...and also apparently for the last couple of decades.
First they came for the British celebrities of my youth and now Cosby, I feel - so disappointed