The downvote's main function seems to be to act as a spam-deterrent. Users will inevitably abuse it and downvote dissenting opinions. How would you handle this?
First off, I think it would be good to have the "down vote reason" functionality expanded into all areas of the site. This means on text posts, comments and related content. Once this is functionality everywhere, it can be expanded into new directions. I personally feel there should be a "report" button for all comments so that the community could better moderate discussion and quickly remove spam / abusive content. I think also if there was a way to track "false reports" and then punish those who make them, it would get rid of the whole brigading threat.
Many of us have experienced or seen cases of community leaders abusing their power. Oftentimes, the common user is unable to seek justice. What systems can we put in place to keep our leaders accountable, and even remove them if need be?
I think a public mod/admin log of all moderation actions would be good so that everyone can see what is happening in each tribe. Maybe even include "report" actions made by users listing the reasons so that the reports stay true and it keeps people from making false reports (this may however have the negative effect of retaliation from users that have been reported). As for power hungry moderators, I think we should have a limit on the amount of mods per tribe and maybe even hold quarterly elections for all qualified users at higher tribe levels (large tribes). We can use reputation score and tribe mastery to auto qualify all eligible parties to be listed on a ballot, and all members can then vote on the mods they wish to remain. All competing/selected parties would need to agree to allow their FULL comment logs to be viewed by anyone during this process. Its only an idea, and I'm sure there would see be some sort of corruption but its definitely better than no chance at having the community choose who rep...
The downvote's main function seems to be to act as a spam-deterrent. Users will inevitably abuse it and downvote dissenting opinions. How would you handle this?
First off, I think it would be good to have the "down vote reason" functionality expanded into all areas of the site. This means on text posts, comments and related content. Once this is functionality everywhere, it can be expanded into new directions. I personally feel there should be a "report" button for all comments so that the community could better moderate discussion and quickly remove spam / abusive content. I think also if there was a way to track "false reports" and then punish those who make them, it would get rid of the whole brigading threat.
Many of us have experienced or seen cases of community leaders abusing their power. Oftentimes, the common user is unable to seek justice. What systems can we put in place to keep our leaders accountable, and even remove them if need be?
I think a public mod/admin log of all moderation actions would be good so that everyone can see what is happening in each tribe. Maybe even include "report" actions made by users listing the reasons so that the reports stay true and it keeps people from making false reports (this may however have the negative effect of retaliation from users that have been reported). As for power hungry moderators, I think we should have a limit on the amount of mods per tribe and maybe even hold quarterly elections for all qualified users at higher tribe levels (large tribes). We can use reputation score and tribe mastery to auto qualify all eligible parties to be listed on a ballot, and all members can then vote on the mods they wish to remain. All competing/selected parties would need to agree to allow their FULL comment logs to be viewed by anyone during this process. Its only an idea, and I'm sure there would see be some sort of corruption but its definitely better than no chance at having the community choose who represents them in their tribe. This is just an idea, and a very broad one at that!
For those lamenting the lack of content, it's no mystery — posts and comments will come with new users. Still, there are areas of Snapzu enjoying lively conversation. So, where have you all been spending most of your time?
We need to work together to spread the word, its the least we can do! As for the places I personally frequent...
I think giving everything a 'downvote reason' is a good idea. The 'report' function would also be useful, if a little redundant.
If someone reports a comment, would there be an automated system or would someone actually look at the comment? If it's the latter, and the report is a false one, you could give the offending user a strike. Multiple false reports could result in a punishment. If it's automated, maybe there's a solution for that as well.
Really interesting ideas regarding leadership positions. Voting could be effective, and I like using rep and tribe mastery to determine eligibility. I think transparency is vital.
I think giving everything a 'downvote reason' is a good idea. The 'report' function would also be useful, if a little redundant.
I see the comment reporting system as a way to actually remove bad content like spam / abuse / racism / etc while down votes are mostly for sorting and possibly hiding bad comments. Since comments can be made from multiple tribes within a single member posted snap there is no good way to allow all chiefs & moderators have free reign on moderating them (this is why we cannot mod them now). A good way to imagine what would happen is to have a snap posted into /t/atheism, /t/religion and maybe even /t/christianity and /t/buddhism. Now I can see some great discussions taking place between those 4 tribes being linked into a snap, but I just don't see how 4 chefs (and their staff) in one kitchen can do a good job moderating that type of situation, to put it simply, it would be a cluster fuck. I think its great that comments cannot be moderated because it gives everyone a sense of freedom to express their opinion without the fear of coming across a mod that is having a bad day. Now, going back to the reporting function, this would give the whole community the power to decide what is acceptable and what is against the rules. Of course I see all reports processed by super-mods manually and those report which are false can effect that member's report score or something along those lines, if a member makes too many false reports they will loose their ability to report, and maybe even loose the ability to affect the voting system in a negative way (rep, position, etc). Again, its just an idea for how we can manage the comments. Mods would still be able to decide if a snap stays in the tribe or is booted...
If someone reports a comment, would there be an automated system or would someone actually look at the comment? If it's the latter, and the report is a false one, you could give the offending user a strike. Multiple false reports could r...
I think giving everything a 'downvote reason' is a good idea. The 'report' function would also be useful, if a little redundant.
I see the comment reporting system as a way to actually remove bad content like spam / abuse / racism / etc while down votes are mostly for sorting and possibly hiding bad comments. Since comments can be made from multiple tribes within a single member posted snap there is no good way to allow all chiefs & moderators have free reign on moderating them (this is why we cannot mod them now). A good way to imagine what would happen is to have a snap posted into /t/atheism, /t/religion and maybe even /t/christianity and /t/buddhism. Now I can see some great discussions taking place between those 4 tribes being linked into a snap, but I just don't see how 4 chefs (and their staff) in one kitchen can do a good job moderating that type of situation, to put it simply, it would be a cluster fuck. I think its great that comments cannot be moderated because it gives everyone a sense of freedom to express their opinion without the fear of coming across a mod that is having a bad day. Now, going back to the reporting function, this would give the whole community the power to decide what is acceptable and what is against the rules. Of course I see all reports processed by super-mods manually and those report which are false can effect that member's report score or something along those lines, if a member makes too many false reports they will loose their ability to report, and maybe even loose the ability to affect the voting system in a negative way (rep, position, etc). Again, its just an idea for how we can manage the comments. Mods would still be able to decide if a snap stays in the tribe or is booted...
If someone reports a comment, would there be an automated system or would someone actually look at the comment? If it's the latter, and the report is a false one, you could give the offending user a strike. Multiple false reports could result in a punishment. If it's automated, maybe there's a solution for that as well.
Super-mods would manually process the reports and select between two options, "True", "False or Fake". This simple action can then have consequences on the content. Yep, and the punishment would be the loss of being able to have an effect on the system.
Really interesting ideas regarding leadership positions. Voting could be effective, and I like using rep and tribe mastery to determine eligibility. I think transparency is vital.
I'm pretty sure every system is corruptible, but as long as we are able to properly mitigate this corruption we should be ok. I agree that transparency is the most important if we want things to be fair.
First off, I think it would be good to have the "down vote reason" functionality expanded into all areas of the site. This means on text posts, comments and related content. Once this is functionality everywhere, it can be expanded into new directions. I personally feel there should be a "report" button for all comments so that the community could better moderate discussion and quickly remove spam / abusive content. I think also if there was a way to track "false reports" and then punish those who make them, it would get rid of the whole brigading threat.
I think a public mod/admin log of all moderation actions would be good so that everyone can see what is happening in each tribe. Maybe even include "report" actions made by users listing the reasons so that the reports stay true and it keeps people from making false reports (this may however have the negative effect of retaliation from users that have been reported). As for power hungry moderators, I think we should have a limit on the amount of mods per tribe and maybe even hold quarterly elections for all qualified users at higher tribe levels (large tribes). We can use reputation score and tribe mastery to auto qualify all eligible parties to be listed on a ballot, and all members can then vote on the mods they wish to remain. All competing/selected parties would need to agree to allow their FULL comment logs to be viewed by anyone during this process. Its only an idea, and I'm sure there would see be some sort of corruption but its definitely better than no chance at having the community choose who rep...
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I think giving everything a 'downvote reason' is a good idea. The 'report' function would also be useful, if a little redundant.
If someone reports a comment, would there be an automated system or would someone actually look at the comment? If it's the latter, and the report is a false one, you could give the offending user a strike. Multiple false reports could result in a punishment. If it's automated, maybe there's a solution for that as well.
Really interesting ideas regarding leadership positions. Voting could be effective, and I like using rep and tribe mastery to determine eligibility. I think transparency is vital.
I see the comment reporting system as a way to actually remove bad content like spam / abuse / racism / etc while down votes are mostly for sorting and possibly hiding bad comments. Since comments can be made from multiple tribes within a single member posted snap there is no good way to allow all chiefs & moderators have free reign on moderating them (this is why we cannot mod them now). A good way to imagine what would happen is to have a snap posted into /t/atheism, /t/religion and maybe even /t/christianity and /t/buddhism. Now I can see some great discussions taking place between those 4 tribes being linked into a snap, but I just don't see how 4 chefs (and their staff) in one kitchen can do a good job moderating that type of situation, to put it simply, it would be a cluster fuck. I think its great that comments cannot be moderated because it gives everyone a sense of freedom to express their opinion without the fear of coming across a mod that is having a bad day. Now, going back to the reporting function, this would give the whole community the power to decide what is acceptable and what is against the rules. Of course I see all reports processed by super-mods manually and those report which are false can effect that member's report score or something along those lines, if a member makes too many false reports they will loose their ability to report, and maybe even loose the ability to affect the voting system in a negative way (rep, position, etc). Again, its just an idea for how we can manage the comments. Mods would still be able to decide if a snap stays in the tribe or is booted...
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