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[Site Functionality] Knowing when my snaps are mirrored, and being able to unmirror them

I've noticed recently that some of my snaps were mirrored into other tribes, but I am not notified in any way when that happens. It seems to me that the poster of a snap should have the right to know which tribes it is appearing in.

In addition, I want to be able to remove my snaps from tribes for which they are inappropriate. I find it very unsettling that someone could create a massive tribe by mirroring every available snap regardless of relevance or content. This would seem to be a huge boon to spammers, for example.

What is the point of my carefully choosing appropriate tribes only to have a snap end up in inappropriate tribes? It would look to the casual observer as if I have no sense at all of where to post.

Mirroring is a wonderful idea, and I mirror snaps into my tribes on a regular basis. In addition, I am grateful when someone mirrors a snap of mine into an appropriate tribe I wasn't aware of or had forgotten about. However, the original poster needs to be notified when something is mirrored, and it is essential that the OP has the ability to remove a snap from a tribe into which it is mirrored when that tribe is not appropriate for the snap.

3 months ago by gladsdotter with 3 comments

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  • drunkenninja
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    The concept of mirroring is similar to creating a great blog post and then having this post linked to by other blogs, forums, social aggregators (like snapzu!), social media groups and so on. The creator of the blog post (blogger/writer) doesn't get to have tight control over who shares their content, and who is allowed to have it on their website anymore than an author gets to choose who buys and shares their books. Those specific freedoms of sharing are something we believe in, and is what we based our mirroring functionality on.

    It is also very important to note that re-posts are a problem for many social link aggregators, and our hard stance on them makes it difficult for smaller communities to share popular content. The mirroring functionality was designed in-part to fix the inability of other tribe leaders to create snaps to content already posted simply because the content would be viewed as a re-post and down voted. Snapzu's mirroring functionality fixes this issue by allowing any community leader to mirror popular snaps that have already been posted and display them in their tribe.

    As you may have noticed, there are of course limitations to mirroring. For example, members within a tribe cannot go around mirroring content, this is specifically designed so that if a tribe is against our rules it can be reported and removed. You concern in regards to spammers is handled in the exact same way, we get reports of spam and we go up the branch removing it, be it the content, the user or a whole tribe. I think its important to remember that we designed the up / down voting system within our platform specifically to give our community the power to manage spam effectively, as well as other content that breaks the rules.

    As for massive tribes created out of mirroring a bunch of random snaps, first off there are limitations to how much content can be mirrored daily, and 2nd and more important, doing this is against the rules and will result in losing the ability to mirror and in serious cases, being banned and having the tribe removed all together. As for your second concern with casual observers thinking you have no sense in where to post your content, we will work out a way to more clearly specify if content has been mirrored into a tribe or posted there by OP.

    Your feedback on the concept of receiving notifications is fantastic, and as we expand the mirroring functionality we will be sure to develop this and many more cool features that give people more insight into how their content is being shared across Snapzu (and possibly elsewhere as well). We also plan to make minor tweaks to the functionality as we grow, so it's very likely we will make it more clear which content within tribes has been mirrored and which has been added by the poster.

    • gladsdotter
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      Thank you for the detailed and thoughtful reply.

      This makes sense in the case of link snaps. After all, I am linking to someone else's content in the first place, and I would indeed rather have a snap mirrored than duplicated. In that sense, and in the sense of allowing new users to grow tribes, mirroring is a wonderful addition to the site.

      That said, there are some tribes on Snapzu that I prefer not to be associated with, whether because of their spam content or their otherwise offensive (to me) content. What if the tribe hasn't broken any rules per se, but is simply something offensive to me personally? How willing would you be to act if I find one of my snaps in one of those tribes? Is my only option in that case to delete the snap in question?

      I realize that every snap has Facebook and Twitter share buttons, but if something is shared on Facebook, there is no implication that I'm the one who put it there. If a snap is in a tribe on Snapzu, the assumption is that the OP put it there.

      These are the types of issues that have kept me from posting any more original content on Snapzu, even though the site has wonderful options for doing that. I will be interested in hearing if the same things bother others (given the lack of creative snaps in recent months), or if I'm the only one.

      • drunkenninja
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        This makes sense in the case of link snaps. After all, I am linking to someone else's content in the first place, and I would indeed rather have a snap mirrored than duplicated. In that sense, and in the sense of allowing new users to grow tribes, mirroring is a wonderful addition to the site.

        That said, there are some tribes on Snapzu that I prefer not to be associated with, whether because of their spam content or their otherwise offensive (to me) content. What if the tribe hasn't broken any rules per se, but is simply something offensive to me personally? How willing would you be to act if I find one of my snaps in one of those tribes? Is my only option in that case to delete the snap in question?

        Obviously no system is perfect, and mirroring is definitely not an exception to this rule. Because of this, any functionality we create (i.e. mirroring), will find some opposition in regards to the way we approach a specific goal, in this case content sharing and aggregation. With that said, as we watch this functionality in action we can then continue expanding it to best fit in with the way Snapzu as a community platform embraces it. We didn't want to end up over-engineering it for this exact reason, we will watch it grow and guide it with updates to where it should be once it becomes a wide scale function used by thousands of communities. This of course means tweaks and new expanded functionality that will protect against possible abuse, as well as additional statistics, notifications and whatever else can be useful to our community.

        These are the types of issues that have kept me from posting any more original content on Snapzu, even though the site has wonderful options for doing that. I will be interested in hearing if the same things bother others (given the lack of creative snaps in recent months), or if I'm the only one.

        I would dare to argue that this is more of a subjective opinion based on your own personal concerns in regards to this fairly new functionality. Have you ever experienced issues with a tribe chief mirroring your content into a tribe that you find unacceptable? And if so, please PM me your concerns, as feedback is always extremely useful in guiding us with functionality expansion and tweaks.

        As for original content... Snapzu was and will always be a content aggregator rather than a place for purely original content (like MEDIUM), and thats just because of the way the platform is built and we have come to terms with that. Nothing suggests original content is not being created because of a new found ability to mirror it to other tribes.

        If anyone else has any concerns or feedback in regards to our updates, we always appreciate the feedback as it will help to bring issues to light, some that we will surely need to address as we continue expanding this community.