Either they were testing and didn't see drunkenninja's comment and forgot to remove their downvote, or they simply disagree with my suggestion. There shouldn't be any downvotes at all on this, but some people just want to watch the world burn Cobbydaler.
Cobbydaler, I wouldn't take it so personally, there is no perfect community out there. What matters is that we are able to mitigate and live with our imperfections.
We will try our best to educate, but there is only so much you can do until mitigation is the only reasonable path. We are of course checking all suggestions, and are always interested in good solutions.
Why do you assume its idiot trolls, its most likely what massani said. Either that or they just disagree, no need to just insult the community like that.
While 'idiot trolls' may a bit harsh, Cobbydaler is right. In a perfect world without 'idiot trolls' and where everyone knew what a downvote signified; this post wouldn't have any downvotes. The fact that they are downvoting because they disagree means that they either are oblivious as to what a downvote signifies on snapzu, or they're just an 'idiot troll' who doesn't care.
I don't think Cobbydaler is insulting the community. It can be difficult transitioning from Reddit to Snapzu. I've noticed that downvotes tend to carry much more weight around here, because they are far less common. They're really only used to signify spam, effortless posts, incorrect tribe, or NSFW content that's not labeled as such. When people use them when they don't fit, it's a lot more insulting to see than it is on Reddit. I think that's Cobbydaler is a bit more offended over a couple downvotes than the typical redditor might be.
Cobby isn't though. The word troll puts assumption on the individual's character, not the whole of the community. Not saying anyone's wrong or right, but y'know. Syntax and things.
As one of the new users I sincerely apologize for this. The main reason I chose snapzu over other potential sites was because of the positive atmosphere and the excellent community the veterans had built for us. For what little I can do, I'm trying to mitigate and educate on the differences that make snapzu special, but as massani said, some people just want to watch the world burn.
I don't think that us new people will ruin it, TheDylantula. The culture here seems to be really strong, and I would expect to see the new members integrate into it. The site is certainly setup to be more conducive to the atmosphere. I wouldn't worry too much. :)
Fellow ex-redditor here. I've been trying very hard to prove myself on Snapzu and show some of the original Snapzu users that we aren't all bad! It's hard to make up for the behavior of others but damnit, I'm trying!
I wouldn't tar everyone with the same brush. It might seem disheartening (and I agree that there is absolutely no reason to downvote this), but the fact the option is there means it will be used from time to time. I generally prefer the 'upvote only' approach - the good stuff still rises (I think I've used the downvote button less than 10 times in years of reddit).
From what I have seen regarding this influx, it appears that the majority of migrating users are pleasantly surprised with the friendly vibe here, along with the far smaller prevalence of mean-spirited idiots. I think voat is seen as the other primary option for those who are really behind the 'anything goes, act how you want' mindset.
Well as a new user, it can't certainly be all bad. Like drunkenninja said, it's more about mitigating the problem. With these 3500 new members, I'm sure a very small percentage of them are bad eggs. If we as a community provide enough support to one another then it will prevent them from breeding their hate. Just a matter of doing it now rather than later so it doesn't make the situation worse.
I disagree. I think growing of a community is usually always a good thing. The only thing I can see being an issue is that the new influx (presumably from reddit) is unfamiliar with the rules of Snapzu. On reddit, people downvote usually because it goes against the hivemind. On here, I'd imagine that if there were a reporting system that pops up when you downvote, it would lessen the downvotes because the people who are downvoting for an illegitimate reason wouldn't do it because they would have to go out of their way to downvote.
Dicks are always, and have always been, an unavoidable member of any community that is big enough to actually support itself. This is due to the number of dicks IRL. You can't stop them from existing, but you can totally take the wind out of their sails through clever algorithms and automatic flagging of suspicious use. Personally, I just think downvoting should be a fairly high-level privilege - like level 10 or something. Perhaps even weighting the value of your downvote power in line with your level? Maybe there could be threats of having xp deducted from you if you are spot checked and found to be abusing your downvote power, which would then reduce the weight of your downvotes?
There shouldn't be any down votes at all on this...
Come on now, that's a bit high and mighty, Don't you think? This issue was already touched on in a blog post and maybe the down voters thought making downvoting more difficult it arbitrary and unnecessary. Of course, they could also be jerks. I don't know, but never assume something should never have down votes.
2 downvotes for this? WTF? There are certainly some shitty new users coming to Snapzu.
Either they were testing and didn't see drunkenninja's comment and forgot to remove their downvote, or they simply disagree with my suggestion. There shouldn't be any downvotes at all on this, but some people just want to watch the world burn Cobbydaler.
Well said. I'm beginning to think this influx of new users is a bad thing.
Cobbydaler, I wouldn't take it so personally, there is no perfect community out there. What matters is that we are able to mitigate and live with our imperfections.
I'm not taking it personally. I'm just sad for the good people who are trying to make this a better place when idiot trolls are downvoting them.
We will try our best to educate, but there is only so much you can do until mitigation is the only reasonable path. We are of course checking all suggestions, and are always interested in good solutions.
Why do you assume its idiot trolls, its most likely what massani said. Either that or they just disagree, no need to just insult the community like that.
While 'idiot trolls' may a bit harsh, Cobbydaler is right. In a perfect world without 'idiot trolls' and where everyone knew what a downvote signified; this post wouldn't have any downvotes. The fact that they are downvoting because they disagree means that they either are oblivious as to what a downvote signifies on snapzu, or they're just an 'idiot troll' who doesn't care.
I don't think Cobbydaler is insulting the community. It can be difficult transitioning from Reddit to Snapzu. I've noticed that downvotes tend to carry much more weight around here, because they are far less common. They're really only used to signify spam, effortless posts, incorrect tribe, or NSFW content that's not labeled as such. When people use them when they don't fit, it's a lot more insulting to see than it is on Reddit. I think that's Cobbydaler is a bit more offended over a couple downvotes than the typical redditor might be.
Cobby isn't though. The word troll puts assumption on the individual's character, not the whole of the community. Not saying anyone's wrong or right, but y'know. Syntax and things.
As one of the new users I sincerely apologize for this. The main reason I chose snapzu over other potential sites was because of the positive atmosphere and the excellent community the veterans had built for us. For what little I can do, I'm trying to mitigate and educate on the differences that make snapzu special, but as massani said, some people just want to watch the world burn.
Same here. I love the bright atmosphere the veterans have created. I hope our fellow reddit migrators don't ruin it :(
I don't think that us new people will ruin it, TheDylantula. The culture here seems to be really strong, and I would expect to see the new members integrate into it. The site is certainly setup to be more conducive to the atmosphere. I wouldn't worry too much. :)
Fellow ex-redditor here. I've been trying very hard to prove myself on Snapzu and show some of the original Snapzu users that we aren't all bad! It's hard to make up for the behavior of others but damnit, I'm trying!
I wouldn't tar everyone with the same brush. It might seem disheartening (and I agree that there is absolutely no reason to downvote this), but the fact the option is there means it will be used from time to time. I generally prefer the 'upvote only' approach - the good stuff still rises (I think I've used the downvote button less than 10 times in years of reddit).
From what I have seen regarding this influx, it appears that the majority of migrating users are pleasantly surprised with the friendly vibe here, along with the far smaller prevalence of mean-spirited idiots. I think voat is seen as the other primary option for those who are really behind the 'anything goes, act how you want' mindset.
Well as a new user, it can't certainly be all bad. Like drunkenninja said, it's more about mitigating the problem. With these 3500 new members, I'm sure a very small percentage of them are bad eggs. If we as a community provide enough support to one another then it will prevent them from breeding their hate. Just a matter of doing it now rather than later so it doesn't make the situation worse.
I disagree. I think growing of a community is usually always a good thing. The only thing I can see being an issue is that the new influx (presumably from reddit) is unfamiliar with the rules of Snapzu. On reddit, people downvote usually because it goes against the hivemind. On here, I'd imagine that if there were a reporting system that pops up when you downvote, it would lessen the downvotes because the people who are downvoting for an illegitimate reason wouldn't do it because they would have to go out of their way to downvote.
There is a reporting system when you downvote a snap. People are ignoring it.
Oh, there is? I haven't seen it because I haven't downvoted anything. Noted
Dicks are always, and have always been, an unavoidable member of any community that is big enough to actually support itself. This is due to the number of dicks IRL. You can't stop them from existing, but you can totally take the wind out of their sails through clever algorithms and automatic flagging of suspicious use. Personally, I just think downvoting should be a fairly high-level privilege - like level 10 or something. Perhaps even weighting the value of your downvote power in line with your level? Maybe there could be threats of having xp deducted from you if you are spot checked and found to be abusing your downvote power, which would then reduce the weight of your downvotes?
Come on now, that's a bit high and mighty, Don't you think? This issue was already touched on in a blog post and maybe the down voters thought making downvoting more difficult it arbitrary and unnecessary. Of course, they could also be jerks. I don't know, but never assume something should never have down votes.