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Supreme Court strikes down bans on same-sex marriage
The Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage across the United States in a divided ruling that will stand as one of the major milestones in its 226-year history.
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And it's about time, too. What a great step, I'm so happy for all the couples, I hope all their weddings are what they've been dreaming of.
Couldn't agree more.
But I'm still avoiding Facebook for the day. Don't want to feed the trolls.
Even if you don't participate, it can be fun to make a drinking game out of it! Like take a shot each time you see a related comment/post that mentions:
* A religion forbidding same-sex relationships
* Animals in nature knowing that a male mates with a female only (though that's not strictly true)
* Slippery slope of people demanding for marriage between an adult human and some other thing that's not an adult human
* The "gayness" spreading and causing Armageddon via extinction
* Obama bringing the USA to ruin
* Not being comfortable with the idea of male-male anal
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Hey! Hadn't thought of that. I need alcohol and my FB stream, stat!
foxnews facebook page is pretty good right now. I'm enjoying it.
My dad recently changed his profile pic to the Confederate Flag. I'm pretty afraid of what his opinion of the Court's decision will be.
I can imaging you are. But at least you know what topic not to bring up around him.
some people like to bring up controversial topics in discussion.
One preacher said he's set himself afire if this happened. Another couple said they would get a divorce to protest. Will they put their money where their big mouths are? Don't think so. Anyway,this gladdens my heart!
Well, I hope that the minister doesn't carry out his plan. But I do hope he loses some credibility when he doesn't. I still don't understand the purpose of getting a divorce to protest others getting married. That just complicates their lives and does nothing about the others getting married. Oh well. In any case, I'm with you: glad for gay couples who can now get married.
Yeah,it makes no sense,does it. I doubt they will do anything,but protest in a harmless way.
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Wow, Clarence Thomas really threw a tantrum in his dissent. I posted a link to Slate's coverage of it.
Worse than Scalia's? That's the one getting all the press. Thanks for the link :)
EDIT: Wait. His argument is basically, "What? We already don't arrest you! That's fair enough, right? But equal treatment? We get to decide who's equal..." George Orwell just shouted from his grave, I think.
Even slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved. I'm kind of wondering what slaves he's thinking of.
He DID! I heard him yell all the way over here! Someone needs to read Animal Farm.
I wish that the government wasn't involved in marriage at all. I don't think that I should get any special government benefits or tax breaks just because I chose to marry my wife. If two dudes want to get married, that's great. Find someone to perform the wedding ceremony and do it! I understand their are next of kin laws, but just change them so that a spouse isn't the default next of kin. Make people declare who the next of kin is just like people have to declare who their emergency contacts and beneficiaries are. Make everyone file taxes separately.
Basically what I'm rambling about is that my opinion is that there shouldn't be a government benefit or penalty based on who someone chooses to marry.
I have a feeling that this fight isn't necessarily over yet. I fear that some of the conservative states are going to whatever they can to obstruct the courts in regards to same-sex marriage
Literally 80 years later they're still trying to end Social Security. So no, this fight isn't over and none of them ever will be.
I know exactly what you mean. It's nowhere near over.
Fuckin' finally! :D
I had to add this link because it's just too damned funny!
Oh, the irony. I'd say "Let Canada have them" but I like Canada.
Since I can't add any more links I'll just post this one as a comment:
The First Evidence of Recognized Same-Sex Relationships is 4,500 Years Old.
This is truly a victory for the United States!
As someone who is ignorant in the law, what exactly does this supreme court ruling mean?
Does this ruling make it into law that states can't ban same-sex marriage? What happens if a state turns around and bans same-sex marriage?
Now that the Court has issued this historic decision, every state must allow marriage equality and must recognize marriages from other states, as this is a right guaranteed by the Constitution and the Fourteenth Amendment. This is not a new right; it is one that can no longer be denied under color of law.
so in all 50 states, right this minute, gays can obtain a marriage license? or is there a process before it's actually official?
If you read the end of /u/AdelleChattre second link, it outlines what comes next.
thanks
I'm glad that everyone can get married to whom they love now.
However,
I can't help but disagree with this decision. Don't get me wrong, I believe that everyone should have the right to marry as they please, but I can't help but fell this was unnecessary. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this going to happen on a state level anyway? I feel the supreme court didn't need to do this.
Like I said, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just rambling about something I know little of.
Yeah, but some states isn't enough. The moment you leave that state, the validity of your marriage is up in the air. No one should have to settle for being officially married in certain areas like a state-sized closet.
If two people commit to each other in such a binding fashion, it behooves the rest of us to at least give them the rights that come with their commitment, as we would give any heterosexual marriage.
Plus, the Fourteenth Amendment essentially prohibits leaving civil rights up to individual states. If something is considered a right in the United States, the Constitution requires that it be protected as a right everywhere in the United States. Marriage was established as a right in 1954 in Loving v Virginia.
It had happened in some states, but even in many of those states it is still being fought: Mississippi Goddam, for instance. Using the passive voice to say this ‘had happened’ ignores that marriage equality had to fought for and won in state after state. This is what the Supreme Court is for, settling constitutional law for the nation as a whole. If you’re for equality in any particular state, why would you be against it in the country?
If it was, it wouldn't have been for a while. Most of those states weren't legalizing by choice. They were legalizing by court order. And they were also fighting it tremendously. The remaining states, if they did have the ban struck down, it would be by court order, and they too would fight it with all their effort. Having a Supreme Court decision makes it (almost) final. Instead of fighting for the next few generation, they affirmed what all the other courts would hold up anyways, that it is a human right.
Added another link of some of the backlash (out of Alabama).